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  • paulthefan
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    Originally posted by imaginative

    Being consistent is about being able to pump out more-or-less the same
    effort more-or-less every competition. This is a different measure
    than maximum ability. It is, in fact, quite possible that the top-ten
    in this area are/were comparatively low-profile jumpers. (It would,
    obviously, make sense to have some kind of cut-off for a discussion
    like this, e.g. to consider only 17+m jumpers, only global medalists,
    or similar.)

    I understand your point and without referencing Ralph Waldo Emerson wouldn't one rather have been a WR jumper on the 3 times it mattered most than a 17m jumper every day of the week and never make a final. Consistency in T&F has to be when one is on the big stage.

    For instance imagine a long jumper that jumped 8.5m the last two years and was unable to get a medal at WC or Oly... I could care less how many times he jumped 8.5m, how consistent he was week in and week out, rising to the occasion at every weekly invitational and his national champs if on the one day it really mattered he was a dud.

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  • imaginative
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    Originally posted by paulthefan
    Originally posted by imaginative
    Several of the above jumpers (including Edwards) were not very
    consistent---no matter their position in a ``best-of-all-times''
    list.
    a 60+ foot PR with a few olympic medals certainly qualifies for consistency.
    No---just for being awesome. (And there is no doubt that Edwards was
    both awesome and a better jumper than Olsson.)

    Being consistent is about being able to pump out more-or-less the same
    effort more-or-less every competition. This is a different measure
    than maximum ability. It is, in fact, quite possible that the top-ten
    in this area are/were comparatively low-profile jumpers. (It would,
    obviously, make sense to have some kind of cut-off for a discussion
    like this, e.g. to consider only 17+m jumpers, only global medalists,
    or similar.)

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  • mikli
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    Jonathan Edwards vs everyone else, wind-legal only:

    18.00+ 4/5 jumps
    17.90+ 7/15
    17.80+ 10/30
    17.70+ 19/84
    17.60+ 36/176
    17.50+ 50/352

    Took that from Peter Larsson's site because I don't have ancillary jumps in my database.

    Is that consistent? You decide. Leaves no doubt who is the best triple jumper ever, though.

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  • Daisy
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    Originally posted by paulthefan
    and we all have read paulthefans prose on felix.
    We have? Maybe we tuned out 8-)

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  • lonewolf
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    the thing that struck me about Edwards is that he seemingly levitates, especially in the step phase,

    He jumps like Frank Shorter runs, barely touching the ground.

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  • paulthefan
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    Originally posted by imaginative
    Several of the above jumpers (including Edwards) were not very
    consistent---no matter their position in a ``best-of-all-times''
    list.
    a 60+ foot PR with a few olympic medals certainly qualifies for consistency.

    My own feeling about the triple jump is that it is all about aesthetics, and no one was more fluid and graceful as edwards, sure some come close but he is to the triple jump what Alyson Felix is to the 200m, and we all have read paulthefans prose on felix. Edwards makes 90% of the other 17.5 + jumpers look like lumbering beasts, Olsson and the big Brazilian stomp where edwards hovered. Watching him was like watching a piece of shale skip across a pond, it is a sight that mesmerizes the track fan again and again. Can nature produce another Edwards, I hope so.

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  • imaginative
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    If consistency is the keyword, we have to include Olsson (although
    his case was a lot weaker at the time of the original posting).
    Several of the above jumpers (including Edwards) were not very
    consistent---no matter their position in a ``best-of-all-times''
    list.

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  • Bauchwalzer
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    Top 10 Triple Jumpers for consistency

    In no particular order, I'd pick: Naota Tajima, Adehemar Ferreira da Silva, Jozef Schmidt, Art Walker, Nelson Prudencio, Viktor Saneyev,
    Willie Banks, Kristo Markov, Mike Conley and Jonathan Edwards.

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  • Per Andersen
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    Re: 10 Best Triple-Jumpers, for Consistency

    Don't worry hjsteve. I just figured you were rusty after 6 days away from this.
    I still believe Saneyev is no. 1. Did Edwards pass Schmidt?. I would pick Adhemar F. daSilva for a close 4th.

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  • stevehj197
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    Per, I'm embarrassed that you noticed Schmidt's omission before I did !

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  • Per Andersen
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    Re: 10 Best Triple-Jumpers, for Consistency

    Way too many Americans. Just to balance this out a bit. A few names: Tajima, Shcherbakov,Drehmel, Markos, Gentile, Vitold Kreyer and who can leave out Jozef Schmidt?

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  • stevehj197
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    Re: 10 Best Triple-Jumpers, for Consistency

    >To avoid minor differences of opinion, my lists are named in no particular
    >order.

    B

    whew ! you had me worried about you, Bijan.

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    10 Best Triple-Jumpers, for Consistency

    To avoid minor differences of opinion, my lists are named in no particular order.

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  • stevehj197
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    Re: 10 Best Triple-Jumpers, for Consistency

    Bijan, if these are in rank order, I do not see how anyone other than Saneyev can be first.... 3 straight OG golds followed by a silver is about as "consistent" as you can get !

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    10 Best Triple-Jumpers, for Consistency

    Willie Banks, Mike Conley,Joa Carlos de Oliveira, Kenny Harrison, Adhemar da Silva,Jonathan Edwards, Al Joyner,Viktor Saneyev, Norm Tate, Yoelvis Quesada (with John Craft and Art Walker barely missing).
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