First American to break 30:00, 28:00 in 10,000m?

[BYU grad]

I think Max Truex was the first American to break 29:00 in the 10,000m when he set the American record at 28:50.2 when finishing 6th in the OG in 1960 in Rome, but who was the first American to break 30:00 and 28:00? Include the time and even race circumstances if possible.

[Bruce Kritzler]

Think Frank Shorter ran 27:56 (prel) and 27:53 (final) at Munich '72. May have broke 28 previously year at London Coca Cola?

[Louis IX]

BYU grad:
You're spot on about Shorter being the first under 28:00 with his Munich prelim.

As for the other milestone, wasn't Buddy Edelen the first under 30:00? I have a copy of Edelen's biography but I'm away from home now and can't consult it to make sure.

[bf]

The FAST AR book gives Buddy Edelen as first sub-30 (29:58.9, 5/60, Sunnyvale,Ca). Shorter - 27:58.2, 1972 OG heat.

[BYU grad]

The FAST AR book gives Buddy Edelen as first sub-30 (29:58.9, 5/60, Sunnyvale,Ca). Shorter - 27:58.2, 1972 OG heat.

bf, thanks, and how do I get access to the FAST AR book? And Shorter's time in the final in the 72 OG was 27:51.4. Now another question could be asked...who will be the first American under 27:00?

[bambam]

The FAST AR book gives Buddy Edelen as first sub-30 (29:58.9, 5/60, Sunnyvale,Ca). Shorter - 27:58.2, 1972 OG heat.

bf, thanks, and how do I get access to the FAST AR book? And Shorter's time in the final in the 72 OG was 27:51.4. Now another question could be asked...who will be the first American under 27:00?

Scott Davis should have copies - [email protected]

[slowcat]

Tegenkamp in 2009

[tandfman]

Maybe Rupp.

[BYU grad]

Thanks Bambam, I'll check out [email protected].

[BYU grad]

Re: who might break 27:00....I agree Tegenkamp has a good chance if he decides to give the 10,000m a serious try...and 2009 sounds about right...after a good 5,000m result in Bejing. Teg has the speed and the talent to do it...just needs to train for more strength and get in the Brussels race!

Rupp....yes, is a "maybe", Ritz also a maybe and Ryan Hall a maybe, except he probably won't focus on 10,000m. I think Hall could run 27:20-25 off his marathon training, but would have to concentrate on the event exactly 20 miles short of his specialty to approach 27:00 or under.

[ed gee]

Very optimistic, considering that Rupp has improved his 5000m PB by 7+ seconds since 2004 and has yet to break 13;30.

Only two US born athletes have run under 27;30 (Nenow and Virgin) and their bests were in 1980 and '86.

I would be pleasantly surprised if Rupp and/or Ritz ever run under 27;20.

IMO, Bernard Lagat is the US runner most capable of breaking 27.

Isn' t the fastest non-African born 10,000 meter runner still Arturo Barrios from 1989?

[EPelle]

Yep.

[tandfman]

Very optimistic, considering that Rupp has improved his 5000m PB by 7+ seconds since 2004 and has yet to break 13;30.

But Rupp ran 27:33.48 before his 21st birthday. There's no doubt in my mind that he has the potential to go under 27. The greater uncertainty is whether he'll be the first American to do so.

[ed gee]

Rupp has not done anything that would lead me to think he can run remotely close to 27 minutes for 10,000 meters. His 27;33 is an outlier compared to anything else he has done.

Only ~eight non-Africans have run under 27;20 and none have been close to breaking 27.

27:08.23 Arturo Barrios MEX 12 12 1962 1 Berlin 18 08 1989

27:12.47 António Pinto POR 22 03 1966 3 Stockholm 30 07 1999

27:13.81 Fernando Mamede POR 01 11 1951 1 Stockholm 02 07 1984

27:14.44 Fabián Roncero ESP 19 10 1970 1r1 Lisboa 04 04 1998

27:16.50 Salvatore Antibo ITA 07 02 1962 1 Helsinki 29 06 1989

27:17.48 Carlos Lopes POR 18 02 1947 2 Stockholm 02 07 1984

27:18.14 Jon Brown GBR 27 02 1971 4 Bruxelles 28 08 1998

27:18.59 Armando Quintanilla MEX 19 04 1968 3 Oslo 22 07 1994

27:20.56 Mark Nenow USA 16 11 1957 1 Bruxelles 05 09 1986

[DrJay]

Only two US born athletes have run under 27;30 (Nenow and Virgin) and their bests were in 1980 and '86.

I thought "Salazar" then realized he may have been born in Cuba, which indeed he was. Anyone know at what age he moved to the US?