Originally posted by Kurt Francis
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Originally posted by Kurt FrancisMighty Favog:
Chris Nelloms was a JUNIOR @ the 1989 State Championships, not a freshmen. Remember, Chris (who now resides in a correctional facility about 10 miles from me til 2039) was the 1990 Nat. HS Athlete of the Year by T&FN as a senior.
Kurt
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Originally posted by rhymansSilvio Cator is still the Haiti NR holder in the LJ with 7.93/26'0 1/2" - from 1928 - may last longer as a NR than O'Connor's Irish record
There was another thread about oldest National records that sprung from Peter Norman's passing in Oct 2006:
http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... hp?t=22555
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The Ohio HS record for the 3-man long jump "relay" was set in 1951 and still stands. At least around here, most schools compete in this event at least once a year. The record is 70'; one of the team members was Bill Hairston, who world-ranked #9 that year.
The real stat-heads here might point out that Hairston's portion of that record, 24' 8 1/2", was determined to be wind-aided...which throws some doubt on the other marks as well. But on the other hand, I've never seen any other 3-man team totals marked as wind-aided.
#2 on the Ohio list in the event is 69' 6 1/2"...from 1959.
A friend who'd taken over coaching at a school which now truly fits the term "ghetto" (in its modern American meaning) asked me to help come up with their school records. In most events it was pretty easy, as they had been the dominant local power through the 70s. Alumni include Mel Walker (former world indoor HJ record holder) and Bill Taraschke (this year's D-III nationals meet director). All the records were fairly easy to determine save one: the 3200m/2-mile. I figured it couldn't be any faster than 10:30 or so, as they hadn't been any good at it even when it had been a championship program.
They'd once had a great distance runner, who broke the Ohio mile record as a sophomore with 4:15.3 in 1966. But back then if you ran the 2-mile it was all you were allowed to run, and so their stud had never run it. But paging through the state XC meet program once, I saw his name listed as winning the championship in 9:43.7...and I figured that deserved to be listed as the school record for 3200 meters.
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I don't have one as far back as 1930, but I have a distant relative in my hometown (Rock Island, Il) that still owns our HS record.
24-4, Jim Holland, Rock Island (H.S.), 1942If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.
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An individual High School's records can sometimes be very inaccurate. After 48 years, I recently e mailed my old high school, asking for a list of the current school records. The AD kicked me over to the coach, and he then very graciously sent the current listing to me. Only trouble was, there were 3 events listed where school records made in 1959 and 1961 were nowhere to be seen ! And this was not my faulty memory, I had newspaper clippings to prove it. Also, AT versus manual and metric versus yards were not an issue either. I sent the coach a very nice and diplomatic reply, but the silence has been deafening.
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I continually find that if something happened that can't be found in the internet it's like the tree that fell with no one around to hear it.
The concept of research has changed dramatically, and while I don't understand all the tools that today's college students have, they don't understand many of mine, either.
Microfilm? Newspapers--on paper? Archives? Telephone directories. Not part of the modern lexicon.
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They'd once had a great distance runner, who broke the Ohio mile record as a sophomore with 4:15.3 in 1966. But back then if you ran the 2-mile it was all you were allowed to run, and so their stud had never run it. But paging through the state XC meet program once, I saw his name listed as winning the championship in 9:43.7...and I figured that deserved to be listed as the school record for 3200 meters.[/quote]
Wes Brock?
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