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  • lovetorun
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    Walt...interesting comment...who would have thought that after those 3 there would still not be 3 more over 42 years later!

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  • Walt Murphy
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    Jim Rorick wrote:
    "From my memory, there was not a 2nd HS athlete in the mile final. A 4:01.8 would have been quite newsworthy in those days (still is)."

    Liquori's 3:59.8 got one line in Cordner Nelson's T&F News article, so I don't think a 4:01.8 would have been mentioned(if it had happened). With three sub-4 prep milers in 4 years (Ryun-64/65, Danielson-66, Liquori-67), I'm sure the feeling was that there would be a lot more on the way. Little did we know at the time that it would be 34 years before Webb would become the 4th HS'er to break 4-minutes. I was at the meet and the thing I remember is the legendary Bakersfield heat during the day.

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  • KDFINE
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    To Conar Dary. Ed Dean was out of high school by 1967. I was at the 1966 NYAC indoor meet and saw him, running for Notre Dame, set out with a fast pace. Ryun and Grelle didn't pay any attention to him and at one point he had about a 70 yard lead before they reeled him in. Ryun got the jump on Grelle passsing someone (was Odlozil in the race ? this is all from memory). They both ran 4:02.2.
    Danielsen's only sub 4:00 was in 1966. I just cheated and took out my July, 1967 issue and report the 1967 results as: Ryun 3:51.1; Grelle 3:56.1 (I think it was his last sub4); Wilborn 3:56.2; Von Ruden 3:56.9; Divine 3:57.2; Bair 3:58.7; Liquori 3:59.8; Danielson 4:00.6; McCalla 4:00.6; and Dean 4:04.5.

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  • Double R Bar
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    Yes, that was Jim Beatty who still follows track and field very closely at the age of 75. Not sure if anyone ran that fast from start to finish. Ryun's finishing speed was amazing.

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  • DecFan
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    I just watched this race on Youtube - seeing it for the first time since the original broadcast. Was that Jim Beatty doing commentary?

    Other than Bayi, has anyone else ever run this fast (or the equivalent 1500) while leading start to finish?

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  • Double R Bar
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    Ryun. Some say he finished in about 14 seconds.

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  • Kalaby
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    Originally posted by Double R Bar
    No time was taken for 1,500 meters in that 1967 AAU mile, however I have heard guesses around 3:37.0. Ryun's last lap was 53.7! His final two laps were 1:52.2! His last three laps were 2:52.1!
    Jim Grelle (who was second in 3:56.1) had a great quote after the race: "Everybody in the race was a kid, but me."
    Thanks for the response.

    I have to ask who the estimated 3:37.0 split is for? Given their final mile times in that race, it seems too slow for Ryun and too fast for Liqouri.

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  • Double R Bar
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    No time was taken for 1,500 meters in that 1967 AAU mile, however I have heard guesses around 3:37.0. Ryun's last lap was 53.7! His final two laps were 1:52.2! His last three laps were 2:52.1!
    Jim Grelle (who was second in 3:56.1) had a great quote after the race: "Everybody in the race was a kid, but me."

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  • Kalaby
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    Just digging up this old thread to ask if there were official en route 1500m splits in the mile race? If so, does anybody know what Liquori's 1500m time was?

    Thanks.

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  • gh
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    >Mark Murro & Marty Liquori were the two Essex HS boys. To Gary Hill: Only you
    >would know the attendance of a meet 36 years ago!!!!!!>>

    Hardly! I just happened to be the one who had the reference materials closest at hand.

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  • dj
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    >re Davenport's '66AAU time - I thought it was 13.50 (120y - =13.54c/110m). Was
    >it 13.44? (and it was with -1.5w, on cinder track!!)

    It was 13.44 for 120y, according to the Hymans WR progression and the Mallon/Buchanan US Nat'l Champs book. The wind was -1.3 miles-per-hour (-1.34 actually).

    My guess is that the 13.44 has been converted once to 13.47, then marked as 13.47y leading some to think it was 13.47 for 120y and equivalent to 13.50, and on, and on, and on. Similar to Jim Dunaway's contention that using a variety of conversion tables would manage to get Uwe Hohn's WR 104.80 converted and re-converted down to nothing.

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    re Davenport's '66AAU time - I thought it was 13.50 (120y - =13.54c/110m). Was it 13.44? (and it was with -1.5w, on cinder track!!)

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    Mark Murro & Marty Liquori were the two Essex HS boys. To Gary Hill: Only you would know the attendance of a meet 36 years ago!!!!!!

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  • wsatch
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    Dear M FISH , maybe I M CONFUSED .WHO was 2nd Essex guy. MURRO?

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  • wsatch
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    Dear M FISH , maybe I M CONFUSED .WHO was 2nd Essex guy. MURRO?

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