Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

[bijanc]

Who were the last world class HJ'ers who did not flop- even if they were Fosbury contemporaries or successors?

[Dave]

I think there was a Russian in the 80s who could make it work.

While trying to research the topic, I ran across this about Dick Fosbury. It looks like he was diagnosed with cancer but is probably ok.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/s ... 1658296800

[Per Andersen]

Re: Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

Who were the last world class HJ'ers who did not flop- even if they were Fosbury contemporaries or successors?

The last WR holder who did not use the Flop was the Russsian Vladimir Yaschenko , one of the greatest HJ talents of all time.
He set Outdoor and indoor WR's in 1978 at 2.34 and 2.35 (7-8 and 7-8 1/2). That was 10 years after Fosbury jumped 7-4 1/4.
The floppers regained the WR in 1980 when Wessig jumped 2.36 at the Olympics.
There were other great straddlers at that time like Rolf Beilscmidt who jumped 2.31 in 1977.

But please, don't mix up the Western Roll and the Straddle. Two different but related techniques.

[paulthefan]

Re: Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

The last WR holder who did not use the Flop was the Russsian Vladimir Yaschenko , one of the greatest HJ talents of all time.
He set Outdoor and indoor WR's in 1978 at 2.34 and 2.35 (7-8 and 7-8 1/2).


But please, don't mix up the Western Roll and the Straddle. Two different but related techniques.

can remember watching him on television, he was an immense talent. What would he have flopped?

dont know how anyone could get over 2m with a western roll.

[no one]

Dave - (others) That was one of the best articles about an athlete I've ever read ...

[Per Andersen]

Re: Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

dont know how anyone could get over 2m with a western roll.

Horine did it almost 100 years ago.
Holm plays with it sometimes. He's done 2m and his version is very primitive.
I think his Straddle best is still 2.06.

[jhc68]

Check me, Per... I'd say the last great Western Roller was Gene Johnson in the early '60's, a consistent seven foot jumper.

Again, for you youngsters, be sure to differentiate between Western and Straddle Roll techniques.

[Bauchwalzer]

Who were the last western rollers?

Might be Stanley Albright.

[Per Andersen]

Re: Who were the last western rollers?

Might be Stanley Albright.

Yeah, that's what I think. He had a 2.17 (7-1 1/2?) indoors. Can't remember the year though. Late 60's or early 70's?

[dukehjsteve]

At my level of mediocrity, I was a Western Roller in HS; I taught myself the Straddle when I was 19. As a result my level of mediocrity got a bit higher. Then I was "retired" before the Flop's birth.

[imaginative]

Re: Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

dont know how anyone could get over 2m with a western roll.

Horine did it almost 100 years ago.
Holm plays with it sometimes. He's done 2m and his version is very primitive.
I think his Straddle best is still 2.06.

According to http://www.scholm.com/kuriosa.htm he has scissored 2.12,
done 2.05 in the straddle (assuming that this is ``dykstil'') and 2.00
in the californian roll. Do not ask me what ``rakhopp'' and ``Holm
volt'' are.

[Per Andersen]

Re: Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

According to http://www.scholm.com/kuriosa.htm he has scissored 2.12,
done 2.05 in the straddle (assuming that this is ``dykstil'') and 2.00
in the californian roll. Do not ask me what ``rakhopp'' and ``Holm
volt'' are.

I thought you were Swedish! Sure "dykstil" is the straddle and Californian Roll is the Western Roll. "rakhopp" is just a straight- on simple jump with no technique.

Holm shows all these + the Holm volt on YouTube. Search "6 degrees of jumping-Stefan Holm"

[Kurt Francis]

I think some of the answers here are confusing the straddle with the Western Roll. Different techniques.

[Mellow Johnny]

Re: Who Were the Last Western Rollers?

[quote="Per Andersen"]
He set Outdoor and indoor WR's in 1978 at 2.34 and 2.35 (7-8 and 7-8 1/2). [/ :lol: quote]

Absolutely incredible heights without the flop....and not too bad with it!

[Powell]

Yashchenko was quite possibly the greatest HJ talent ever. I'm not sure why he didn't use the flop, BTW - he was born in 1959, so by the time he started training seriously, that technique would have been the generally accepted standard. And of course it's a huge shame his career was destroyed by alcohol - he didn't do anything of note after 1978, when he was just 19...