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**lonewolf** · 08-30-2008, 08:59 PM

Texas, I always appreciate your lists and am in awe of your knowledge of the sprints but please tell us you have to look this stuff up.

**tandfman** · 08-30-2008, 09:58 PM

If he looked it up, the names would all be spelled correctly.

**no one** · 08-30-2008, 11:18 PM

lists .... saved on computer

**lonewolf** · 08-31-2008, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by no one

lists .... saved on computer

Yeah, but compiling the lists......

**Texas** · 08-31-2008, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by lonewolf

Texas, I always appreciate your lists and am in awe of your knowledge of the sprints but please tell us you have to look this stuff up.

I've been keeping index cards on schools with two athletes who meet this criteria.....

100...9.4/10.29
200...20.99
400..45.99
110's...13.99
long jump...over 25 feet
plus two relayers.

Started doing that around 1968. Constantly upgrading, especially in the mighty SEC. That's where all that comes from. I have 55 schools that can meet the criteria. Then there are schools like Florida A&M who lack 400m guys, so they are in waiting. Grambling has a flock of sprinters but nothing else. South Carolina being my latest addition.

Take LSU for instance. From guys like Revey Scott, Efrem Coley, Fabian Muyaba to Trindon Holliday, Xavier Carter and Richard Thompson. Then you get to Arkansas and there are the Spearmons running the 200m..ha! The oldest athlete listed would be Jesse Owens. Yep he's still long jumping for the Buckeyes. It will be a sad day when I have to wave good bye to Jesse Owens.Yes I know both Joe Greene/ Chris Sanders have superior jumps. So Greene is there. Sanders can also run a 10.2m so I moved him to the 100m, least I could do for old Jesse 8-)

Still waiting for a couple sub 14.00 hurdlers for Jackson State.

Now you take the Colorado card vs the Stanford card. Yep...dual meet! So what school would win a.... ah...nationals? Care to take a guess?

**Kishan Gill** · 08-31-2008, 05:40 PM

I didn't know floyd ran for both auburn and houston.

And what about alabama, emmit king, calvin smith, james mallard and throw in chauncey harris ( I had to look him up )

**Texas** · 09-01-2008, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by Kishan Gill

I didn't know floyd ran for both auburn and houston.

And what about alabama, emmit king, calvin smith, james mallard and throw in chauncey harris ( I had to look him up )

Floyd started off at Auburn, then transferred to Houston. In 1980 he was the top ranked 100m man even ahead of Olympic champ Allan Wells.

Yes I agree....where's Alabama? I'll add a "C" & "D" when I have time.

**Kishan Gill** · 09-01-2008, 11:05 AM

By virtue of 10.03 at provos altitude in the olympic trials.
Are you sure Floyd didn't quit college and join houston TC.

**Texas** · 09-03-2008, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Kishan Gill

By virtue of 10.03 at provos altitude in the olympic trials.
Are you sure Floyd didn't quit college and join houston TC.

I saw him run while he was at Houston.

Here ya go....

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Stanley Floyd (born June 23, 1961) is a retired track and field sprinter from the United States, best known for setting the 1980 second best world's best year performance in the men's 100 metres. He did so on 1980-05-24 at a meet in Austin, Texas, clocking 10.07. Floyd was the 1980 US champion in the men's 100 metres.

Floyd attended the University of Houston.[1]

**Cottonshirt** · 09-03-2008, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Texas

I've been keeping index cards on schools with two athletes who meet this criteria.....

100...9.4/10.29
200...20.99
400..45.99
110's...13.99
long jump...over 25 feet
plus two relayers.

Started doing that around 1968...

In the UK, we have precisely 5 men all-time who have beat 10.29, and there are only two British sprinters ever with a legal 100y time of 9.4 or better. You have 55 schools who each have two men that good.

In the 200m we have 96 men who qualify.
In the 400m we have 47 men who qualify.
In the 110mH we have 5 men who qualify.
In the LJ we have 64 men who qualify.

In 1968, as a way of picking a time with which to track schools athletes you chose a time that is 95% of the World Record!

I am really curious to know how you picked those particular criteria?

Martin

**Texas** · 09-03-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Cottonshirt

Originally posted by Texas

I've been keeping index cards on schools with two athletes who meet this criteria.....

100...9.4/10.29
200...20.99
400..45.99
110's...13.99
long jump...over 25 feet
plus two relayers.

Started doing that around 1968...

In the UK, we have precisely 5 men all-time who have beat 10.29, and there are only two British sprinters ever with a legal 100y time of 9.4 or better. You have 55 schools who each have two men that good.

In the 200m we have 96 men who qualify.
In the 400m we have 47 men who qualify.
In the 110mH we have 5 men who qualify.
In the LJ we have 64 men who qualify.

In 1968, as a way of picking a time with which to track schools athletes you chose a time that is 95% of the World Record!

I am really curious to know how you picked those particular criteria?

Martin

Prior to auto timing I used 9.4, I also go with what "alumni" produced. Back in the beginning I only had a few schools that made the grade. USC and UCLA being there from the start.

Here's San Jose State

Dennis Johnson
Ray Norton
Bobby Poynter
Ronnie Ray Smith
Wayne Herman
Tommie Smith
John Carlos
Kirk Clayton
Bill Gaines

All 9.4 or faster, all prior to 1970.

USC had....

Frank Wykoff
Mel Patton
Lennox Miller
Payton Jordan

All 9.4 or faster, all prior to 1970.

Schools from the SEC/SWC didn't start taking off until the mid 70's. Schools like Grambling/Texas Southern always had sprinters. Grambling having Olympians Stone Johnson in 60 and Richard Stebbins in 64. TSU had Jimmy Hines, Clyde Duncan, Charlie Frazier and Homer Jones all 9.4 or faster, all prior to 70. UCLA had Hal Busby, Norm Jackson and Tom Jones all at 9.4 or faster there at the same time. So it went.

Check out Southern U

Rodney Milburn...13.2
Willie Davenport....13.3
Brian Johnson....27-4/10.2
Florenzo Holmes...25-7
George Anderson...9.3
John George...10.2
Theron Lewis...45.0
Robert Wilson...45.3
Donald Winey...20.5/45.1r
Oliver Ford...20.5/9.3
relayer...Kevin Jefferson...44.9r

4x1...John George..Brian Johnson..Oliver Ford..George Anderson
4x4...Robert Wilson..Donald Winey..Kevin Jefferson...Theron Lewis

**Cottonshirt** · 09-03-2008, 12:49 PM

Well, you didn't actually say how you came to pick those numbers, but it has become obvious that when you say school you do not mean what I mean when I say school.

Thanks for clearing that one up.

Martin

**Texas** · 09-03-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Cottonshirt

Well, you didn't actually say how you came to pick those numbers, but it has become obvious that when you say school you do not mean what I mean when I say school.

Thanks for clearing that one up.

Martin

I picked those numbers because that's what it took to be competitive on the national stage. Not sure I follow you ...school? I'm talking a USA college/University. What's a ..school..to you?

**KevinM** · 09-03-2008, 04:14 PM

Texas/Brutal,

I'm completing my own list of all of the sub-10 guys who attended US schools. I have the following guys as the only sub-10s not to have competed for a US school. See any errors here?

Asafa Powell
Donovan Bailey
Linford Christie
Francis Obikwelu
Bruny Surin (LSU?)
Seun Ogunkoya
Dwain Chambers
Deji Aliu
Olusoji Fasuba
Abdul Aziz Zakari
Uchenna Emedolu
Samuel Francis
Jason Gardener
Silvio Leonard
Ronald Pognon

Also, did any of these guys compete for any schools other than their 4-year (JCs or previous 4-years)?
Fredericks
Crawford
D. Ezinwa
Calvin Smith
O. Adeniken
Martina
Oba Thompson
D. Effiong
Myles-Mills
Ray Stewart
Vincent Henderson
Joshua Johnson
Mel Lattany
Rodney Martin

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