1st stab at trying to adjust those runs for not just wind-altitude using jrm's calcs but also for fact that they were handicapped by low-O2

from here :

http://2008olympictrialsakatommyleonard ... ilecabinet

http://2008olympictrialsakatommyleonard ... ration.doc

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/tra ... rgysys.htm

( someone please help me out & find the figures for 100m, 5k & 10k )

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/index.html

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/win ... twind.html

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/400alt.html

now, what i've tried is very simple & combine jrm's calc with low-O2 handicapping aerobic metabolism

- for hines 100m of 9.95 ( +0.3 ) at 2250m = 10.03 basic

now, saturation at that height is ~ 94% saturation

which means aerobic metabolism is handicapped by 98/94 compared to sea-level ( big assumption & needs refining )

aerobic component for 100m isn't given above ( please find a figure ) but extrapolation leads to ~ 20%

therfore hines was handicapped aerobically by

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 20/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0085

his estimated sea-level time is ->

~ 10.03/1.0085 =

for this example, i'm advocating he wouda run 9.95 at sea-level

- for tommie in 200 :

19.83 ( +0.9 )

now, obviously, he ran easy curve & celebrated at end - call it more like 19.70, which is -> 19.96 basic

trying same above working with 29% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 29/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0123

-> 19.96/1.0123 =

again, tends to indicate he ran same time at altitude he shouda at sea-level

- for lee & 43.86

jrm gives that as 44.36

using 43% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 43/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0183

-> 44.36/1.0183 =

- for doubell & 1'44.40, use jrm's 400 calc & scale up the average 400m time -> 1'45.40 basic

using 66% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 66/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0281

-> 1'45.40/1.0281 =

- for keino & 3'34.9, use jrm's 400 calc & scale up the average 400m time -> 3'36.75 basic

using 84% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 84/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0357

-> 3'34.9/1.0281 =

( indicating ryun ran about a 3'32.3 behind )

obviously needs lot more work, but those mexico performances were truly superhuman & altitude doesn't detract them

from here :

http://2008olympictrialsakatommyleonard ... ilecabinet

http://2008olympictrialsakatommyleonard ... ration.doc

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/tra ... rgysys.htm

200m run: 29% aerobic; 71% anaerobic

400m run: 43% aerobic; 57% anaerobic

800m run: 66% aerobic: 34% anaerobic

1500m run: 84% aerobic; 16% anaerobic

400m run: 43% aerobic; 57% anaerobic

800m run: 66% aerobic: 34% anaerobic

1500m run: 84% aerobic; 16% anaerobic

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/index.html

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/win ... twind.html

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/400alt.html

now, what i've tried is very simple & combine jrm's calc with low-O2 handicapping aerobic metabolism

- for hines 100m of 9.95 ( +0.3 ) at 2250m = 10.03 basic

now, saturation at that height is ~ 94% saturation

which means aerobic metabolism is handicapped by 98/94 compared to sea-level ( big assumption & needs refining )

aerobic component for 100m isn't given above ( please find a figure ) but extrapolation leads to ~ 20%

therfore hines was handicapped aerobically by

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 20/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0085

his estimated sea-level time is ->

~ 10.03/1.0085 =

**9.95**for this example, i'm advocating he wouda run 9.95 at sea-level

- for tommie in 200 :

19.83 ( +0.9 )

now, obviously, he ran easy curve & celebrated at end - call it more like 19.70, which is -> 19.96 basic

trying same above working with 29% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 29/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0123

-> 19.96/1.0123 =

**19.72**again, tends to indicate he ran same time at altitude he shouda at sea-level

- for lee & 43.86

jrm gives that as 44.36

using 43% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 43/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0183

-> 44.36/1.0183 =

**43.57 !**- for doubell & 1'44.40, use jrm's 400 calc & scale up the average 400m time -> 1'45.40 basic

using 66% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 66/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0281

-> 1'45.40/1.0281 =

**1'42.6 !**- for keino & 3'34.9, use jrm's 400 calc & scale up the average 400m time -> 3'36.75 basic

using 84% aerobic ->

1 + ( (98/94) - 1 )* 84/100 ) for aerobic = 1.0357

-> 3'34.9/1.0281 =

**3'29.3 !**( indicating ryun ran about a 3'32.3 behind )

obviously needs lot more work, but those mexico performances were truly superhuman & altitude doesn't detract them

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