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  • Texas
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    Re: Foreign athletes...

    Originally posted by dj
    Originally posted by Texas
    Originally posted by dj
    Originally posted by Texas
    When Trinidad won the bronze at the 64 Oly in the 4x4 they ran...

    Edwin Skinner...Maryland
    Kent Bernard....Michigan
    Edwin Robets....NCC
    Wendell Mottley....Yale
    Skinner went to Maryland State, which was renamed Maryland Eastern Shore in the early 1970s. It's an HBCU and should not be confused with the University of Maryland.
    Yes he did but most the time you'll read..


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    Edwin Skinner was born on October 15, 1940, and his athletic career lasted for about 13 years.

    Skinner showed promise at the tender age of 13 when he won both the 100 and 220 yards at the Coronation Sport Meeting held at the Queen's Park Oval in 1952.

    In 1959 he played second fiddle to Wendell Mottley in the 100, 220 and 440 yards events at the Queen's Royal College Championships. In 1962 he held the Trinidad records in both the 200 and 400 events.

    Skinner subsequently proceeded to the University of Maryland where he was a member of the University Team that established a world indoor record in the 4x400 yards event.
    Just goes to show the veracity of on-line bios!
    Not just on-line, it's actually everywhere. I've read many things that were inaccurate over the years. Then there are those football announcers who know nothing about track telling us how some 10.45 guy has "world class" speed...haha!!!!!!

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  • dj
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    Re: Foreign athletes...

    Originally posted by Texas
    Originally posted by dj
    Originally posted by Texas
    When Trinidad won the bronze at the 64 Oly in the 4x4 they ran...

    Edwin Skinner...Maryland
    Kent Bernard....Michigan
    Edwin Robets....NCC
    Wendell Mottley....Yale
    Skinner went to Maryland State, which was renamed Maryland Eastern Shore in the early 1970s. It's an HBCU and should not be confused with the University of Maryland.
    Yes he did but most the time you'll read..


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    Edwin Skinner was born on October 15, 1940, and his athletic career lasted for about 13 years.

    Skinner showed promise at the tender age of 13 when he won both the 100 and 220 yards at the Coronation Sport Meeting held at the Queen's Park Oval in 1952.

    In 1959 he played second fiddle to Wendell Mottley in the 100, 220 and 440 yards events at the Queen's Royal College Championships. In 1962 he held the Trinidad records in both the 200 and 400 events.

    Skinner subsequently proceeded to the University of Maryland where he was a member of the University Team that established a world indoor record in the 4x400 yards event.
    Just goes to show the veracity of on-line bios!

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  • Texas
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    Re: Foreign athletes...

    Originally posted by dj
    Originally posted by Texas
    When Trinidad won the bronze at the 64 Oly in the 4x4 they ran...

    Edwin Skinner...Maryland
    Kent Bernard....Michigan
    Edwin Robets....NCC
    Wendell Mottley....Yale
    Skinner went to Maryland State, which was renamed Maryland Eastern Shore in the early 1970s. It's an HBCU and should not be confused with the University of Maryland.
    Yes he did but most the time you'll read..


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    Edwin Skinner was born on October 15, 1940, and his athletic career lasted for about 13 years.

    Skinner showed promise at the tender age of 13 when he won both the 100 and 220 yards at the Coronation Sport Meeting held at the Queen's Park Oval in 1952.

    In 1959 he played second fiddle to Wendell Mottley in the 100, 220 and 440 yards events at the Queen's Royal College Championships. In 1962 he held the Trinidad records in both the 200 and 400 events.

    Skinner subsequently proceeded to the University of Maryland where he was a member of the University Team that established a world indoor record in the 4x400 yards event.

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  • dj
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    Re: Foreign athletes...

    Originally posted by Texas
    When Trinidad won the bronze at the 64 Oly in the 4x4 they ran...

    Edwin Skinner...Maryland
    Kent Bernard....Michigan
    Edwin Robets....NCC
    Wendell Mottley....Yale
    Skinner went to Maryland State, which was renamed Maryland Eastern Shore in the early 1970s. It's an HBCU and should not be confused with the University of Maryland.

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  • Texas
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    Originally posted by Helen S
    I prefer the PC term "International" athletes. If it was just foreign (as in strange or different) then I think Gabe would have qualified.
    So what happens to the Foreign Legion? How about the band...The Foreigners? No more...Foreign exchange students? That word..."international"..gives the impression that somebody has been around. I mean if he can't be a...foreigner...then he'd have to be an...internationalist...right? A guy coming over from Jamaica, Trinidad just doesn't fit..."internationalist".

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  • Helen S
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    I prefer the PC term "International" athletes. If it was just foreign (as in strange or different) then I think Gabe would have qualified.

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  • Texas
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    Re: Foreign athletes...

    Originally posted by gh
    Originally posted by Texas
    ......
    8.Nebraska...Keith Gardner...Leighton Preistley...Horace Levy...Lynwood Headley
    ....
    It'll be tough running a leg on the USC team at the same time, but Quarrie is obviously better than any of these guys for the Huskers.
    It was the year right after Quarrie left USC. Willie Deckard was the stud Trojan now. The two would anchor their 4x1 teams, Deckard his Trojan team and Quarrie some club team. Well Quarries team dropped the baton and no other team in the field was close to the Trojans when Deckard got the stick. So there goes Willie and Don Quarrie. Yep Quarrie was running stride for stride with Deckard with no stick in hand. With about 5 yards to go Quarrie steps off the gas, it was cool with smiles all around.

    Few remember that Quarrie started off at Nebraska. Fewer remember that he had a sprinter cousin/brother in Ray.

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  • gh
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    Re: Foreign athletes...

    Originally posted by Texas
    ......
    8.Nebraska...Keith Gardner...Leighton Preistley...Horace Levy...Lynwood Headley
    ....
    It'll be tough running a leg on the USC team at the same time, but Quarrie is obviously better than any of these guys for the Huskers.

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  • Texas
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    Originally posted by jhc68
    Texas, you should add an NAIA team and a JC team !
    Sure...

    NAIA..Azusa Pacific..Patrick Nwanko...Osmond Ezinwa...Innocent Egbunike...Davidson Ezinwa

    JC...Central Arizona...Kim Collins...Percival Spenser...Marvin Anderson...Daneil Effiong

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  • jhc68
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    Texas, you should add an NAIA team and a JC team !

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  • Texas
    started a topic Foreign athletes...

    Foreign athletes...

    ......at USA schools.....hmm?

    If we had a 4x1 using foreign sprinters....

    lane

    1.USC...Lennox Miller..Guy Abrahams..Don Quarrie..James Gilkes
    2.BYU...Leonard Miles...O.Kayode..Kenneth Andam...Frankie Fredericks
    3.UTEP...Oba Thompson...Olapade Adeniken..Churandy Martina...Chris Garpenborg
    4.TCU....Michael Frater..Kim Collins...Percival Spenser...Ray Stewart
    5.Fresno State...Robert Foster...Rick Jones...Les Laing...Mike Agostini
    6.Clemson...Mark McKoy...Dwight Thomas...Desai Williams...Michael Green
    7.Texas Southern...Arnaldo Bristol...Moses Ugbisie...Ainsley Armstrong...Augustine Olobia
    8.Nebraska...Keith Gardner...Leighton Preistley...Horace Levy...Lynwood Headley
    9.ACU...Albert Lawrence...Greg Meghoo..Nic Alexander....Chris Van Wyk

    When Jamaica blew the world away in 1952 by smashing the WR 4x4 record, three members of that team had been trained in the USA.

    Les Laing....Fresno State
    George Rhoden...Morgan State
    Herb McKenley...Illinois
    Arthur Wint..nope!

    As we know Richard Thompson the current NCAA 100m champ is from Trinidad. LSU has also had Fabian Muyaba from Zimbabwe and Canada's Glenroy Gilbert who broke that 96 Oly 4x1 wide open.

    Ato Boldon (UCLA) also from Trinidad is probably the most accomplished foriegn/USA trained sprinter not already mentioned. Yes I know he has little to do with Trinidad but he did run for them. Canada's great Harry Jerome starred at Oregon.

    Then there's..

    Tom Robinson has a stadium named after him in the Bahamas. He was a world ranked sprinter in the early 60's. Ran for Michigan. Hasley Crawford a Trini and the first Carib sprinter to win the Oly 100m attended Eastern Michigan. Chidi Imoh probably the first great Nigerian speedster (10.00) ran for Missouri. Panama's Lloyd LaBeach was one of top sprinters in the 40's he ran for UCLA/Wisconsin.Edwin Roberts an Olympic 200m bronze medalist in 64 was a Trini at NCC.Dennis Johnson was a multi WR holder out of Jamaica, one of the first of those great SJS sprinters.

    Deserve Mention....

    George Daneils...Ghana/Colorado
    Derrick Atkins...Bahamas/Dickinson
    Jean Louis Revelomantsoa...Madagascar/Westmont
    Stan Allotey...Ghana/LA State
    Victer Ednet...Nigeria/Missouri
    The Ezinwa's...Nigeria/Azusa Pacific
    Daneil Effiong...Nigeria/Lubbock
    Errol Stewart...Jamaica/UTEP
    Steve Mullings...Jamaica/Miss State
    Sterling Hinds...Canada/Washington
    Marc Burns...Trini/Auburn
    Andrew Smith...Jamaica/TCU



    I always wonder Powell/Bolt/Christie/Bailey/Surin/Borzov/Mennea/Nash/Wells/Hary/Obikwelu would have done if they had gone the route so many other foreign athletes went. Imagine Valery Borzov at UCLA or Usain Bolt at TCU.

    Cuba has a bevy of world class sprinters going back to the days of Rafael Fortun in the 50's. Too bad none of them were allowed off the island. Freddy Mayola at Florida?

    When it comes to the 400m, Oklahoma had a slew of Jamaicans. Avard Moncur and Chris Brown from the Bahamas ended up at Auburn and Norfolk State. We had Mel & Mal Spence two Jamaican Olympians at ASU. Bert Cameron and Greg Haugton were great Jamaicans at UTEP and George Mason. Then there's Wendell Mottley an Oly gold medalist out of Trini/Yale. Gabriel Tiacoh was a stud from the Ivory Coast, he ran for Washington State. Imgine Alberto Juantorena at Baylor...hmmm?

    When Trinidad won the bronze at the 64 Oly in the 4x4 they ran...

    Edwin Skinner...Maryland
    Kent Bernard....Michigan
    Edwin Robets....NCC
    Wendell Mottley....Yale

    I could be wrong but I'm thinking this was the first relay team to medal made up of foreign athletes who all attended a USA school.
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