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  • Per Andersen
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    Seton Hall Andy Stanfield

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  • tandfman
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    Originally posted by dj
    Nobody here is old enough to remember the greatest of Penn sprinters.
    I'm not old enough to remember them, but I certainly was aware of the existence of a strong cadre of world class sprinters in another era. Forgive me for not qualifying my mention of Haines.

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  • dj
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    Nobody here is old enough to remember the greatest of Penn sprinters. Haines was world ranked, and the only person ever to win four consecutive AAU indoor dash titles). But before the 1930s, Penn had a number of people who would have ranked among the top-10 in the world in a given year (counting them only during their undergraduate years):

    100:
    Horry Lee '77-78-79 (IC4A champ each year)
    Ernie Ramsdell '94 (IC4A champ)
    Walt Tewksbury '98-99 (IC4A champ both times)
    Alvin Kraenzlein '99 (AAU 2nd, Canadian champ), '00 (IC4A champ ahead of Oly champ Jarvis)
    Thaddeus McClain '99 (IC4A 3rd), '00 (3rd IC4A)
    John Westney '02 (IC4A champion after 2 DQs to athletes who finished ahead)
    Nate Cartmell '04 (2 OG, 2 IC4A), '06 (1st IC4A), '07 (1st IC4A, 2nd AAA, 1st "Natl Collegiates"), '08 (4th OG, 1st IC4A)
    Dick Dear '05 (2nd Penn Relays)
    Jay Whitham '08 (3rd IC4A, finalist EnOly Trials)
    G.W. Minds '09 (3rd IC4A), '10 (3rd IC4A)
    Tex Ramsdell '10 (1st IC4A, 1st AAA)
    Don Lippincott '12 (3rd OlyGms), '13 (3rd IC4A)
    Jim Patterson '13 (1st IC4A)
    Boots Lever '23 (1st IC4A)

    220 includes many of the same names, plus George Hill '24 (4th Oly Gms)

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  • dukehjsteve
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    Originally posted by tandfman
    Uh, it was pretty clear to me that he wasn't considering quarter milers sprinters for this purpose. Otherwise, he would not have listed Ben Vaughn for Georgia Tech.
    Uh, I figured that too tandfman... just having fun with you.

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  • Texas
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    Originally posted by tandfman
    Uh, it was pretty clear to me that he wasn't considering quarter milers sprinters for this purpose. Otherwise, he would not have listed Ben Vaughn for Georgia Tech.
    Yep...60-200..only.

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  • Texas
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    Originally posted by tandfman
    Originally posted by Texas
    Originally posted by dukehjsteve
    Northwestern Jim Golliday
    Well there was Wilmer Fowler a Big10 Champion in 1958. A 9.6 guy.
    I never thought of him as World Class (which was part of your definition of this game). If you're going to Golliday because of Fowler, you should disqualify Remigino because of Joe Schatzle.

    Speaking of the '50's, how about Penn's John Haines? I think he was closer to world class than Fowler and I can't think of another from Penn.
    I hear ya and maybe we can't go with Fowler has World Class. He was however someone of note and a 9.6 in 1958...hmm? Obviously he wasn't on the level of Jim "9.3wr" Golliday.

    John Haines!!!....yep, he belongs. Good one!

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  • tandfman
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    Uh, it was pretty clear to me that he wasn't considering quarter milers sprinters for this purpose. Otherwise, he would not have listed Ben Vaughn for Georgia Tech.

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  • dukehjsteve
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    Originally posted by tandfman
    Originally posted by Texas
    Originally posted by dukehjsteve
    Northwestern Jim Golliday
    Well there was Wilmer Fowler a Big10 Champion in 1958. A 9.6 guy.
    I never thought of him as World Class (which was part of your definition of this game). If you're going to Golliday because of Fowler, you should disqualify Remigino because of Joe Schatzle.

    Speaking of the '50's, how about Penn's John Haines? I think he was closer to world class than Fowler and I can't think of another from Penn.
    Uh, there was a pretty good quarter miler from Penn in 1932.

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  • tandfman
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    Originally posted by Texas
    Originally posted by dukehjsteve
    Northwestern Jim Golliday
    Well there was Wilmer Fowler a Big10 Champion in 1958. A 9.6 guy.
    I never thought of him as World Class (which was part of your definition of this game). If you're going to Golliday because of Fowler, you should disqualify Remigino because of Joe Schatzle.

    Speaking of the '50's, how about Penn's John Haines? I think he was closer to world class than Fowler and I can't think of another from Penn.

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  • Texas
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    Originally posted by dukehjsteve
    Jim Kemp Kentucky State
    I gotta tell my Jim Kemp story.

    There he was at the West Coast Relays to run his speciality the 400m. Well nobody but him showed up. Since he was already there he talked the promotors into letting him run the 100yd. Something he'd never done before or so the story goes. Guess what? Yes he wins it in ..9.3!

    Anyway....

    There was 5.9/9.2 man Craig Wallace at Kentucky St.

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  • Texas
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    Originally posted by dukehjsteve
    Northwestern Jim Golliday
    Well there was Wilmer Fowler a Big10 Champion in 1958. A 9.6 guy.

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  • dukehjsteve
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    Jim Kemp Kentucky State

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  • dukehjsteve
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    Northwestern Jim Golliday

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  • Texas
    started a topic The Lone Sprinter

    The Lone Sprinter

    While some schools like TCU,UTEP,Florida, Tennessee,USC have had a bus load of sprinters, what about those schools with....one. Yes only one.. World Class....speedster. He's..it...all she wrote.

    Let's see..

    Westmont...Jean Louis Ravelomantsoa
    Dartmouth...Gerry Ashworth
    Tuskegee...Mozelle Ellerbe
    Fordham...Sam Perry
    Manhatten...Lindy Remigino
    Columbia...Ben Johnson
    Marquette...Ralph Metcalfe
    Temple....Eulace Peacock
    Tennessee State...John Moon
    Duke...Dave Sime
    DePaul...Dave Dopek
    Dallas Baptist...Francis Baldwin

    That can't be it.

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    Northwestern..Jim Golliday
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