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  • What about first Native American sub 4 miler?

    I don't know if there has been one... Pretty sure Billy Mills didn't. Anyone know?

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    Sam Bair? I couldn't find anything after a brief Google search, but I believe
    his Native ancestry was mentioned when he was competing.

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    • #3
      Howell Michael (William & Mary) or Duncan Macdonald (Stanford).

      Back when both schools were still the Indians. Dartmouth never had a sub-4 while they were still the Indians.

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      • #4
        Is this question confined to U.S.A. Native Americans, or are all Native Americans included?

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          Joe Falcon

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            Re: What about first Native American sub 4 miler?

            Originally posted by lovetorun
            I don't know if there has been one... Pretty sure Billy Mills didn't. Anyone know?

            Maurice Smith, Adams State grad.

            Among other efforts, won the Pre Classic Mile in early '90's (3:57 I believe).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rasb
              Is this question confined to U.S.A. Native Americans, or are all Native Americans included?
              Both categories would be interesting...

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              • #8
                Very unofficially, it would be the fabled 3:58 by "Big Hawk", at Ft.Sydney,Neb. in 1877. Short track, probably. Or bs...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bf
                  Very unofficially, it would be the fabled 3:58 by "Big Hawk", at Ft.Sydney,Neb. in 1877. Short track, probably. Or bs...
                  This may be in the same category as the unhorsed cavalry officer who jumped a 27' wide creek wearing boots and carrying a sabre while fleeing Indians.
                  Big Hawk, perhaps :?:
                  Possibly, the mark has never been ratified because the sabre may have violated the "no weights" rule even though the officer reportedly did not release it backwards to add impetus to his leap..

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                  • #10
                    Does anyone know the first 4-minute milers from countries south of the USA, and North of Antarctica ? :wink: There must be a lot, at least partially, "Native Americans" in there... I must confess that I don't know for sure who has that title in Canada... Anybody ?

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