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  • Per Andersen
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    By 1964 Parry O'Brien had made his 4th Oly team.

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  • malmo
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    My guess would be Dinwoody ran 4:05 at that all comers race.

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  • Conor Dary
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    Thanks Malmo, it wasn't his all time PR but it was his PR up to that point at that All-Comers meet.

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  • malmo
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    Connor. That would be any easy question to answer for yourself.

    http://www.tilastopaja.com/db/atm.asp?ID=16792

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  • Conor Dary
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    'but I seem to remember that his mile PR was about 3:59.0 or so'

    I was at the all-comers race in Eugene back around 1980 when Marsh ran his PR. I can't remember what place he was, but there were 4 or 5 right at 4:00. And for all their trouble they got a ribbon for the top three. Oh, those were the days!

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  • malmo
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    >Was that a religious thing with
    >him ? Memory serves that he's a devout Mormon.

    I think the 6 day thing was more by design rather than religious conviction. I've seen him train on Sunday, and I've seen this "devout" Mormon drinking coffee.

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  • kuha
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    I had to LIU (that is, "look it up"), but here are Marsh's PRs: 1500: 3:43.52 ('85); mile: 3:59.31 ('85); 3000: 7:56.2 ('85); 5000: 13:45.2 ('84). He clearly didn't run many 3000s, but it's still amazing that his best on the flat is only 13 seconds faster than his steeple PR. Does ANY sub 8:10 guy have a differential this small?

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  • old SATCH
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    MARSH did a Morman mission to Brazil ,didn't break 4.00 until he was 31. Never won an Olympic medal ,84-4, 88 --6. his 8.o9.17 in 1985 still is the American record.

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  • 5k Guy
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    >Interesting thing about Marsh, he only ran 6 days per week. He is the only
    >great distance runner I can think of who took a day off (no running or cross
    >training) every week, all year long.

    <Was that a religious thing with him ? Memory serves that he's a devout Mormon.>

    Yes it was. He very much believed in working six days and resting on the Sabbath.

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  • kuha
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    I hadn't heard of this before, but if it's true, Marsh's day-off regime could have been a "sanity" thing just as much as a "religious" thing. It's telling that we could talk about a world class guy training "only" 6 days a week! Also of note: I haven't checked, but I seem to remember that his mile PR was about 3:59.0 or so. Remarkably modest for one of history's most accomplished steeplechasers.

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  • racewalker
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    Ron Laird made 4 teams ('60, '64, '68, '76).
    '60 was in 50km walk and the others were at 20km.

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  • hijumpsteve
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    >Interesting thing about Marsh, he only ran 6 days per week. He is the only
    >great distance runner I can think of who took a day off (no running or cross
    >training) every week, all year long.

    Was that a religious thing with him ? Memory serves that he's a devout Mormon.

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  • 5k Guy
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    Interesting thing about Marsh, he only ran 6 days per week. He is the only great distance runner I can think of who took a day off (no running or cross training) every week, all year long.

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  • hijumpsteve
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    on 2nd thought I'll drop Wyckoff... do not think he was on the '24 team So I will stick with Oerter/Marsh/Lewis. Actually Lewis was on 5 teams if you count the phantom 1980 team.

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  • hijumpsteve
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    and if Al Oerter is first, then Marsh is second, and Carl Lewis is third.. plus Wyckoff that you did not know ??!!

    All this from my head... no research !!

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