WRs by age and ethnic background

[TrackDaddy]

Re: WRs by age and ethnic background

It is not "blacks are good sprinters", it is "some people of west African origins are good sprinters". Tell me, you agree that it is indeed so.

Wrong.

It's..."generally speaking" blacks are better sprinters than whites, and west african blacks are "generally" the best of those.

So again...why is it suddenly important to be scientific when describing who can run fast, when that type of analysis isn't done to describe different looking people in day to day life?

You won't answer it, so I guess I'll have to.

[TrackDaddy]

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Don't we use "simplistic understandings of racial identities, categories and essential traits" in everyday conversations?

When we describe each other in a negative sense (the black guy on the news) in particular... isn't that the way its done?

Why, pray tell, is it important in this instance (who's faster) to suddenly be "scientific?"

QFE

[Conor Dary]

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From my teaching experience there comes a time to say....Forget it, it is hopeless....

[Daisy]

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4. Don't you believe that white people tolerate cold weather better than blacks, and blacks tolerate hot weather better than whites?

One good reason to be scientific is to stop rationales like this from becoming pervasive.

[TrackDaddy]

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Apparently another "good reason" for being scientific is to water down or attempt to discredit what we all know to be true.

Liars figure and figures lie.

When you see a black guy walking down the street...do you make the effort to scientifically discern his genetic origin as it differentiates from other people who look like him?

Naw...

He's just a black dude.

But when the question of blacks running faster than whites comes up...his genetic origin becomes critically important. :roll:

As for blacks tolerating hot weather better and whites tolerating cold weather better being a genetic predisposition of sorts...since you disagree...

Would you like to bet?

[Daisy]

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As for blacks tolerating hot weather better and whites tolerating cold weather better being a genetic predisposition of sorts...since you disagree...

Would you like to bet?

What's your source? Common knowledge?

But when the question of blacks running faster than whites comes up...his genetic origin becomes critically important. :roll:

I don't particularly analyse anything about anyone. The only thing I have ever said is that using the term black is misleading and useless if you want to discuss the interesting topic of genetics and athletics.

[TrackDaddy]

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A source? lol

You need proof of that? lol

Honestly I thought it was common knowledge and in fact is...among people who are honest with themselves.

Before reading the below, tell me why its true that South Africa and Australia have the two highest? skin cancer rates in the world?

Do you believe it could be because you have people of Euro descent living in hot places that clearly oppose their genetic predispostion?

I'll wait.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/conte ... Cancer.asp

Two out of three Australians will develop skin cancer, and an estimated 1,000 die from it every year. The country has the highest skin cancer incidence rates because of its latitude and because it has a population with susceptible skin types, according to Ted Gansler, M.D., Health Content Director for the American Cancer Society (ACS).

The main risk factors for skin cancer are ultraviolet (UV) radiation exposure and skin type, people who burn or freckle rather than tanning and have blond or red hair have higher risk, he says. (However, UV exposure also can cause skin cancers among people with darker skin.)

The southern United States has very high rates for the same reason. Israel also has a skin cancer problem among immigrants of European background, Dr. Gansler adds.

If you need more I'll Google it and close my eyes and pick one.

[Daisy]

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Before reading the below, tell me why its true that South Africa and Australia have the two highest? skin cancer rates in the world?

Mad dogs and englishmen go out in the mid day sun.

Maybe the locals just know better than to expose themselves to the mid-day sun?

Anyway you're off topic. Your original claim was tolerating cold and hot weather.

[TrackDaddy]

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The only thing I have ever said is that using the term black is misleading and useless if you want to discuss the interesting topic of genetics and athletics.

But Daisy...

If using the term black in relation to athletics is misleading, then its misleading in other areas too.

But no one runs a DNA test on the guy who's walking down the street or argues that you can't say he's black if looking at him he clearly is.

So why is it important here?

Soon people will become agitated with this black guys opinion and he'll be showed the way of the others.

Varying opinions are tolerated, but only within the same general demographic.

[TrackDaddy]

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Your original claim was tolerating cold and hot weather.

I would consider a high rate of developing skin cancer an intolerence (or not in the case of blacks), although clearly there are other indications.

[Daisy]

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So why is it important here?

If I told you that all blacks have a low IQ you'd think it was important.

Your original claim was tolerating cold and hot weather.

I would consider a high rate of developing skin cancer an intolerence (or not in the case of blacks), although clearly there are other indications.

How do you know that black sun worshipers who use tanning beds and spend hours every days sunning themselves on the beach are not at risk too?

[TrackDaddy]

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So why is it important here?

If I told you that all blacks have a low IQ you'd think it was important.

But we're speaking in generalities...not totality.

If you said "all" regarding anything I'd be skeptical.

If you said generally speaking blacks in this country have a lower IQ than whites then I would agree.

If pressed for reasons, I'd cite socio-economic factors and legacy first and foremost.

[TrackDaddy]

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Daisy

I appreciate you discussing this with me but I realize we've wandered a bit and that for a number of reasons I'm not teachers pet.

I'll digress now.

[Daisy]

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As I said, the generalities are too broad to be meaningful if you use the term black in the context of athletics. As kuha mentioned, yes, mammals do win Pulitzer prizes, you can bet on it.

[Pego]

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1. It's..."generally speaking" blacks are better sprinters than whites, and west african blacks are "generally" the best of those.

2. So again...why is it suddenly important to be scientific when describing who can run fast, when that type of analysis isn't done to describe different looking people in day to day life?

You won't answer it, so I guess I'll have to.

1. I did not know that all blacks are sub11 sprinters. Some whites (and Asians, and whatever others) are. This statement of yours has about as much validity as "white men can't jump". Yes, "generally speaking" means absolutely nothing and that is what some of us are trying to get accross, while Avante and you keep going back to it.

2. No, I cannot answer this, as I have no idea what you are asking.