Greatest start ever Armin Hary?

[thedodge]

Greatest start iv'e ever seen or is it a flyer?
youtube type in Armin Hary 2nd video.

[ianb]

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Looks like a false start to me. Anyone got a slomo version and tried to check the reaction time?

[rhymans]

Re: Greatest start ever Armin Hary?

You don't need to check. This race was annulled as Hary was ruled to have taken a rolling start. The auto time was 10.16. The race was re-run (with abstentions - most notably the French Senegalese sprinter Abdou Seye) and Hary then ran 10.25 [both races hand timed in 10.0]

[gh]

Re: Greatest start ever Armin Hary?

Hary was nonetheless a brilliant starter. I remember at the time they supposedly tested him and said he had better reaction time than anyone they had ever seen. He was also technically very good out of the blocks. Check his getaway in the Rome final.

[Per Andersen]

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Hary was nonetheless a brilliant starter. I remember at the time they supposedly tested him and said he had better reaction time than anyone they had ever seen. He was also technically very good out of the blocks. Check his getaway in the Rome final.

Oh, yes! And that was after one false start against him.

[lovetorun]

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And that's how he outran Dave Sime...in the start.

[Avante]

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If he hadn't lacked speed endurance he could have made a real impact in the 100. His start and accelleration the best I've ever seen including Armin Hary. I'm talking....Herb Washington...histories first 5.8 man.

[Per Andersen]

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And that's how he outran Dave Sime...in the start.

It's hard to beat Hary when you can't start. I think Sime was a meter behind after the first five.
Hary can't be underestimated. He also had a tremendous pick-up.

[Rog]

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Ben Johnson's starts in 87 and 88 in particular were astonishing - he seemed to leap out of the blocks and then almost gather himself before starting running. It was a wholy different approach to starting.

[Avante]

Re: Greatest start ever Armin Hary?

Ben Johnson's starts in 87 and 88 in particular were astonishing - he seemed to leap out of the blocks and then almost gather himself before starting running. It was a wholy different approach to starting.

Ben always has to be put in a special section for obvious reasons.

[Rog]

Re: Greatest start ever Armin Hary?

Ben Johnson's starts in 87 and 88 in particular were astonishing - he seemed to leap out of the blocks and then almost gather himself before starting running. It was a wholy different approach to starting.

Ben always has to be put in a special section for obvious reasons.

If by "obvious reasons" you mean drug use, he was hardly unique in that respect - sprinters had been using drugs for decades before him and continued to do so after. It wasn't the drug use that set him apart.

[Avante]

Re: Greatest start ever Armin Hary?

Ben Johnson's starts in 87 and 88 in particular were astonishing - he seemed to leap out of the blocks and then almost gather himself before starting running. It was a wholy different approach to starting.

Ben always has to be put in a special section for obvious reasons.

If by "obvious reasons" you mean drug use, he was hardly unique in that respect - sprinters had been using drugs for decades before him and continued to do so after. It wasn't the drug use that set him apart.

I totally disagree. Just look at him in 84 and then 88. Drugs made a huge difference in Ben Johnson.

[Rog]

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I totally disagree. Just look at him in 84 and then 88. Drugs made a huge difference in Ben Johnson.

Well, if you want to look at his huge increase in muscle bulk, just look at the starting line of a field of elite sprinters today - a lot of them will have physiques like Ben Johnson. He's not unique in that respect either.

[Avante]

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I totally disagree. Just look at him in 84 and then 88. Drugs made a huge difference in Ben Johnson.

Well, if you want to look at his huge increase in muscle bulk, just look at the starting line of a field of elite sprinters today - a lot of them will have physiques like Ben Johnson. He's not unique in that respect either.

Who looks like Ben Johnson?

[Per Andersen]

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Who looks like Ben Johnson?

You are right! And that terrific jump start from 1988 was no longer so effective when he returned.
It required power that was no longer there.