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    A most powerful sprinter.

    In 1967, he matriculated as a freshman at what age and which college?

  • #2
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    East Texas State University - Age 22

    Read his autobio a month ago but admit to having a poor memory.

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      Like to make another comment. In his book, John claims that he could have won both the 100 & 200 meters in the 1968 Olympics. In the 200 final he was clearly in the lead coming into the straight but "allowed" Tommie Smith to pass him for the Gold Medal & would settle for the silver. Why would a competitive world class athlete think that way at the moment of his greatest challenge -The Olympic Final in front of a World wide audience?
      I could never figure that out.
      Any opinions out there?

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      • #4
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        My opinion is that John Carlos was one of the great sprinters of all time and that his ego and urge to self-promote are even greater than his physical talents were.

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        • #5
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          John CARLOS was of course one of the greatest
          natural talents of his time.
          I believe, during his whole career he ran quite
          far from the top of his really incredible
          potential.
          As the French T&F historian wrote judiciously,
          John CARLOS was a whimsical athlete who needed
          to be bathed in some kind of injustice, like a
          martyr, to reach excellence...

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          • #6
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            <but "allowed" Tommie Smith to pass him for the Gold Medal & would settle for the silver>

            He didn't settle for the silver either. Norman passed him too. Carlos settled for the bronze.
            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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            • #7
              Re: John Carlos Quiz

              As the French T&F historian Robert PARIENTE
              wrote in his book "La Fabuleuse Histoire de l'
              Athl├ętisme"...
              (to be clear.)

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              • #8
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                saying it a bit more plainly, Carlos' comments provide a strong indication that he is full of a foul-smelling substance.

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                • #9
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                  Pego is correct. John lost so much momentum & form
                  in the last 60 meters or so after Tommie blew by him that he was passed by Peter (Stormin) Norman
                  of Australia for the silver. He rationalized that by claiming that "any white guy that could run 20.0 in the 200 deserves the silver medal"
                  Norman's 20.06A performance still ranks #1 as an Oceania Continental best after all these years.
                  And he beat John Carlos in his prime.

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                  • #10
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                    The Mexico City final was everything an Olympic final should be - Smith apparently overcoming a thigh(hamstring?) problem to set WR, an out-of-nowhere(pre-Games) silver medalist, and bad last-60m luck for 'the favorite'? Auto-timing WRs weren't in effect then, but Carlos would have had one in the semis - 20.12. Not near 19.83(or his brush-spike 19.92), but deserving of retroactive 'unofficial WR' status.

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                    • #11
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                      >East Texas State University - Age 22

                      Orange got it.

                      Carlos began his university career at the late age of 22 in 1967 in Texas. What was his breakout mark that year?

                      Before 1967, for whom did he compete? What did he accomplish in the way of marks/rankings before moving to Texas?

                      Bonus: What high school, if any, did he compete for and what were his marks then? (I don't know the answers here.)

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                      • #12
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                        >>What high school, if any, did he compete for and what were his marks then?<


                        I believe Carlos competed for Manhattan Vocational HS in New York City. I don't remember his marks.

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                        • #13
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                          tandfman is correct on the High School. That's some memory! John's biography didn't mention any of the sprint times he recorded back then. It didn't sound like much of a track program & he probably only ran hard enough to win & impress the women. Impressing the girls was important back in High School as I recall. John always regarded himself as quite the ladies man.

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                          • #14
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                            The idea of Carlos "allowing" Smith to win is just about as believable as Ken Wood running a 3:59 mile in practice in March 1954...that is, not even remotely believable.

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                            • #15
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                              When he first gained fame he was working as an intern at LENNOX HILL hospital in NYC.

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