HJ/JT combo

[Per Andersen]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Bill Miller, Javelin silver medallist in 1952. Threw 81.29 (266-8) in 1953 but that result was not ratified as a WR.

He was also a decent HJer with a best of 6-3 1/2. (that height was good enough for 8th place in the '52 Olympics).

[Gabriella]

Re: HJ/JT combo

A few more notables...
Antonietta Di Martino - 2.03m/46.64m = 2073
Hellebaut - 2.05m/44.37m = 2056
Kluft - 1.95m/50.96m = 2050
Margaret Simpson - 1.85m/56.36m = 2025
Bergqvist - 2.08m/36.46m = 1918

So putting that all together and adding in some more, it makes for an interesting list. That's a massive gap between Spotakova and Di Martino though, I wonder if there are any 60m+ throwers out there with decent HJ PB's? Karin Forkel was athletic and I know Petra Felke had some greating training bests at 30m & standing jumps, but not sure whether eitehr competed in a HJ.

Spotakova 1.78/72.28 =2248
Antonietta Di Martino - 2.03m/46.64m = 2073
Barber - 1.93/53.10 = 2065
Hellebaut - 2.05m/44.37m = 2056
Kluft - 1.95m/50.96m = 2050
Braun 1.94/51.59 = 2049
Turchinskaya - 1.89/54.82 = 2030
Margaret Simpson - 1.85m/56.36m = 2025
Blokhina - 1.91/52.16 = 2021
Shouaa - 1.87/54.82 = 2021
Chernova 1.87/54.49 = 2014
JJK 1.93/50.08 = 2007
Schwarzkopf 1.83/55.25 =1978
Bergqvist - 2.08m/36.46m = 1918

[rhymans]

Re: HJ/JT combo

I don't think I've seen mention in this thread of the late Bob Roggy, who jumped 2.03 at Southern Illinois and threw the old javelin 95.80

[James Fields]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Many years ago the AAU rules book included a Triathlon: 100-meter dash, High Jump, and Javelin -- combining run, jump,throw. It was included during the late 1950s in all-comers competition at Shoreline High School stadium, north of Seattle, and I recall seeing Don Jacobs compete.

Long ago Mr. Jacobs was listed in Track & Field News as a contributor and his results also appeared regularly in Long Distance Log. He is now age 91.

[Jon]

Re: HJ/JT combo

I knew there was another former heptathlete who made the switch to JT (apart from Spotakova) but couldn't remember who. Justine Robbeson - bests of 1.78m and 63.49m - goes straight in at no.3. Also updated Blokhina's HJ PB and Turchinskaya's JT PB (both were incorrect before) which propel them up the rankings into the top four.

Barbora Spotakova - 1.78m/72.28m = 2248
Larisa Turchinskaya - 1.89m/59.28m = 2134
Justine Robbeson - 1.78m/63.49m = 2078
Tatyana Blokhina - 1.95m/52.16m = 2073
Antonietta Di Martino - 2.03m/46.64m = 2073
Eunice Barber - 1.93m/53.10m = 2065
Tia Hellebaut - 2.05m/44.37m = 2056
Caroline Kluft - 1.95m/50.96m = 2050
Sabine Braun - 1.94m/51.59m = 2049
Margaret Simpson - 1.85m/56.36m = 2025
Ghada Shouaa - 1.87m/54.82m = 2021
Tatyana Chernova - 1.87m/54.49m = 2014
Jackie Joyner-Kersee - 1.93m/50.08m = 2007
Lilli Schwarzkopf - 1.83m/55.25m = 1978
Kajsa Bergqvist - 2.08m/36.46m = 1918

[Per Andersen]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Best balanced results or closest to the elite in both events: Turchinskaya 1.89 and 59.28.

[Gabriella]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Is that JT from Turchinskaya not from an older model though? (saying that her otehr PB is from the old model too, so probably should include her in the lists at all)

[nianchengyu]

Re: HJ/JT combo

HJ AND JV:
Barbora Spotakova - 1.78m/72.28m = 2248
Louise McPaul -1.80m/66.96m=2169p
Tessa Sanderson-1.69m/73.58m=2163p
Larisa Turchinskaya - 1.89m/59.28m[old] = 2134
Nathalie Teppe-1.85m/61.60m[old]=2127
Sabine Braun - 1.94m/54.08m[old] = 2098
Kirchmann Sigrid-1.97m-51.90m[old]?=2095?
Justine Robbeson - 1.78m/63.49m = 2078
Tatyana Blokhina - 1.95m/52.16m[old] = 2073
Antonietta Di Martino - 2.03m/46.64m = 2073
Eunice Barber - 1.93m/53.10m = 2065
Tia Hellebaut - 2.05m/44.37m = 2056
Denise Lewis-1.87m/56.50m[old s]=2053
Caroline Kluft - 1.95m/50.96m = 2050
Ghada Shouaa - 1.87m/55.70m [old]= 2038
Austra Skujyte-1.91m/52.63m=2030
Margaret Simpson - 1.85m/56.36m = 2025
Nadine Broersen-1.87m/54.97m=2024
Tatyana Chernova - 1.87m/54.49m = 2014
Jackie Joyner-Kersee - 1.93m/50.12m[old] = 2007

[Vault-emort]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Coming very late into this discussion, but Atlanta silver medallist Louise McPaul (Currey) had bests of:

Old jav 66.96
New jav 66.80
High Jump 1.80

Old score 2169
New score 2166

[nianchengyu]

Re: HJ/JT combo

HJ AND JV:
Barbora Spotakova - 1.78m/72.28m = 2248
Louise McPaul -1.80m/66.96m=2169p
Tessa Sanderson-1.69m/73.58m=2163p
Larisa Turchinskaya - 1.89m/59.28m[old] = 2134
Nathalie Teppe-1.85m/61.60m[old]=2127
Sabine Braun - 1.94m/54.08m[old] = 2098
Kirchmann Sigrid-1.97m-51.90m[old]?=2095?
Justine Robbeson - 1.78m/63.49m = 2078
Tatyana Blokhina - 1.95m/52.16m[old] = 2073
Antonietta Di Martino - 2.03m/46.64m = 2073
Eunice Barber - 1.93m/53.10m = 2065
Tia Hellebaut - 2.05m/44.37m = 2056
Denise Lewis-1.87m/56.50m[old s]=2053
Caroline Kluft - 1.95m/50.96m = 2050
Ghada Shouaa - 1.87m/55.70m [old]= 2038
Austra Skujyte-1.91m/52.63m=2030
Margaret Simpson - 1.85m/56.36m = 2025
Nadine Broersen-1.87m/54.97m=2024
Tatyana Chernova - 1.87m/54.49m = 2014
Jackie Joyner-Kersee - 1.93m/50.12m[old] = 2007

[bambam]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Missing an obvious one on the female side, although it goes back over 80 years - national champion in both events for a major nation, Olympic champion in one event.

Ethel Catherwood - 1928 Olympic high jump champion

Canadian champ in HJ in 1928/30/31, JT in 1927/28/30/31 - JT PR only 36.17 but it was a different era.

[bambam]

Re: HJ/JT combo

The other really obvious one missing on the females is Babe Didrikson - gold medal in the javelin, silver in the high jump in 1932.

[LopenUupunut]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Aleksandra Chudina must be the third obvious one

[nianchengyu]

Re: HJ/JT combo

For multi-event athlete:
Larisa Turchinskaya - 1.89m/59.28m[old] = 2134
Nathalie Teppe-1.85m/61.60m[old]=2127
Sabine Braun - 1.94m/54.08m[old] = 2098
Tatyana Blokhina - 1.95m/52.16m[old] = 2073
Austra Skujyte-1.92m/54.10m=2072
Eunice Barber - 1.93m/53.10m = 2065
Denise Lewis-1.87m/56.50m[old s]=2053
Caroline Kluft - 1.95m/50.96m = 2050
Lyudmyla Yosypenko - 1.88m/55.64m=2050
Ghada Shouaa - 1.87m/55.70m [old]= 2038
Ida Antoinette Nana Djimou - 1.84m/57.27m=2030
Margaret Simpson - 1.85m/56.36m = 2025
Nadine Broersen-1.87m/54.97m=2024
Tatyana Chernova - 1.87m/54.49m = 2014
Jackie Joyner-Kersee - 1.93m/50.12m[old] = 2007

[jhc68]

Re: HJ/JT combo

Hey, Geoff Nelson is the straddle-high jump historian (with an unpublished book on the topic) who sometimes has computer issues logging onto this site. Couple days ago he sent me this list for this thread which I am pasting below:

HJ/JV / PV

Les Steers 6' 11"/210' 0"
Ernie Shelton 6' 11 1/4"/170' 8 1/2"...and 11' 0 3/4"
John Thomas 7' 3 7/8"/190' 0"
Valeriy Brumel 7' 5 3/4"/213' 0"...and 12' 9 3/4"
John Dobroth 7' 2 5/8"/171' 6"...and 12' 0"
Stefan Junge 7' 3 3/4"/151' 3"...and 14' 9 1/4"
Rolf Beilschmidt 7' 7"/160' 4 1/2"...and 12' 9 1/2"
Christian Schenk 7' 5 1/2"/222' 4"...and 16' 5" (indoors)
Igor Kashkarov 7' 0 1/4"/12' 9 1/2"