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  • Said Aouita the greatest range?

    Is Said Aouita the greatest range runner? Did any other great middle/long distance runner in history have the sheer depth of range that Aouita had in his prime?

  • #2
    Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

    Can someone remind me what was Aouita's 10K PR? I know he had that one 10K that was the fastest debut ever at that time. And he ran it with a bloody foot that got stepped on during the race.

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    • #3
      Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

      Looks like it was 27:26.11, July 1986 in Oslo. (From PL's site).

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      • #4
        Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

        his first and last 10k

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        • #5
          Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

          Though he's not one of the greats in world history, Mr Webb has shown a range from 800M - 10000M on par with (but not equal to) Mr Aouita's, though their PRs are not equally aligned.

          Mr Aouita (Mr Webb)

          1'43"86 (1'43"84)
          3'29"46 (3'30"54)
          3'46"76 (3'46"91)
          7'29"45 (7'39"28)
          8'13"45 (8'11"48)
          12'58"39 (13'10"86)
          27'26"11 (27'34"72)
          Fire Impossible.

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          • #6
            Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

            I am impressed that Webb gets that close over the range. It's the 800m that gets rid of most contenders

            Here's a few missing a key mark:

            Komen:
            3:29.46
            3:46.38
            7:20.67
            7:58.61
            12:39.74

            Gebrselassie:
            1:49.35i
            3:31.76i
            3:52.39
            7:25.09
            8:01.08
            12:39.36
            26:22.75
            (+58.55 & 2.03.59 for half and full-mara)

            Choge:
            1:44.86
            3:29.47
            3:50.14
            7:28.78
            --
            12:53.66
            29:06.5

            Mottram:
            3.33.97
            3.48.98
            7.32.19
            8.03.50
            12.55.76
            27.34.48

            But there are no shortage of threads on all this...

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            • #7
              Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

              Rod Dixon is a gooden. Olympic bronze in the 1500- winner of the New York 26er!

              3:33 to 2:08!!!

              P.R.'s

              Distance Time Place Date
              800 m 1:47.6
              1500 m 3:33.89 Christchurch 1974
              Mile 3:53.62
              3000 m Steeplechase 8:29
              5000 m 13:17.3
              10000 m 28:11.0
              Half Marathon 1:02:12 NR Philadelphia 1981
              Marathon 2:08:59 New York 1983
              phsstt!

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              • #8
                Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                Remember, SA also held the WRs in all the metric events from 1500 to 5000 at the same time.

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                • #9
                  Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                  Originally posted by AS
                  I am impressed that Webb gets that close over the range. It's the 800m that gets rid of most contenders
                  Yeah, I was thinking about Paavo Nurmi for this thread (though obviously we couldn't do direct time comparisons), but I can't seem to find anything on his running the 880/800. He was an Olympic gold medalist at 1500, 5000, and 10000 and a silver medalist in the steeplechase, and set world records in the 1500, mile, 3000, and 10000, though.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                    Mary Decker Slaney

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                    • #11
                      Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                      Originally posted by Dilan Esper
                      Yeah, I was thinking about Paavo Nurmi for this thread (though obviously we couldn't do direct time comparisons), but I can't seem to find anything on his running the 880/800.
                      1:56.3

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                      • #12
                        Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                        Originally posted by mikli
                        Originally posted by Dilan Esper
                        Yeah, I was thinking about Paavo Nurmi for this thread (though obviously we couldn't do direct time comparisons), but I can't seem to find anything on his running the 880/800.
                        1:56.3
                        1:56.3 in 1923, when the year leaders were 1:54.3 880y (Ray Watson) and 1:54.0 800 (Alan Helffrich). The WR at the time was 1:52.2 880y (Ted Meredith, 1916) and 1:51.9 800 (Meredith, 12).

                        In many ways the period between Meredith and Doug Lowe/Otto Peltzer was the nadir of the men's 800, the post WWI era. Meredith was great, but probably not as great as the post-war period makes him appear.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                          Regarding Nurmi... In '32 he supposedly ran a 40k race, but I've seen it described as a time trial. Any details on that available?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                            Francie Larrieu 800 to marathon.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Said Aouita the greatest range?

                              Originally posted by Mighty Favog
                              Regarding Nurmi... In '32 he supposedly ran a 40k race, but I've seen it described as a time trial. Any details on that available?
                              I don't have details, but it would make sense. He was supposedly preparing to run the Marathon in the Los Angeles OG's, when the Swedes obtained a ruling disqualifying him as a professional. A 40K race or time trial fits within that history.

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