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    If you put together all-time teams for each state, how would they rate? I'm sure California is an easy #1, and the next few would probably be Texas, Florida, and New York.

    State affiliation would be determined by high school. Three athletes per event, one all-star team per relay.

    Here's my state, Ohio:

    100--Jesse Owens, Harrison Dillard, George Simpson
    200--Owens, Thomas Jefferson, Paul Drayon
    400--Butch Reynolds, Glenn Davis, Jim Gordon
    800--Dave Wottle, Mark Sylvester, Todd Black
    1500--Wottle, Tom Byers, Reggie McAfee
    Steeple--Mark Croghan, Sid Sink, Ricky Pittman
    5k--Bob Kennedy, Bob Schul, Sid Sink
    10k--John Gutnecht, Bob Kennedy, Scott Fry
    Marathon--Ted Corbitt,
    110H--Willie Davenport, Harrison Dillard, Jack Keller
    400H--Edwin Moses, Tranel Hawkins, Glenn Davis
    4x100--Owens, Jefferson, Dillard, Simpson
    4x400--Reynolds, Davis, Gordon, Andrew Pierce
    HJ--Dave Albritton, Robert King, Mel Walker
    PV--Edward Cooke, Tim Mack,
    LJ--Owens, William DeHart Hubbard, Joe Greene
    TJ--Walter Ashbaugh, Milan Tiff, Robert Cannon
    SP--
    DT--Dave Andersson, Jim Dillion
    HT--Clarence Childs, Jud Logan,
    JT--
    Decathlon--Aric Long,
    20k Walk--Jack Mortland,

  • #2
    Re: All-State Teams

    >800--Dave Wottle, Mark Sylvester, Todd Black
    Eliminate Sylvester and Black (Sorry!) and put in Charlie Beetham and Barry King.

    >SP--
    Add Tom Jones.

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    • #3
      Re: All-State Teams

      oops jsquire, you are ahead of me on my new thread idea.

      But before you can rank the states for their all-sta squads, I think my thread ( "Best in State all-time rankings", maybe 10 or 15 deep ) would be a fun thing.

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      • #4
        Re: All-State Teams

        Florida doesn't have enough history to rank as high as you think. New Jersey, Washington, Oregon, Illinois, Massachusetts would all rank higher, I think.

        What about your Ohio women's team? Stella Walsh was a teenager from Cleveland when she first burst on the scene in the late '20s. Do you know which high school she attended? Or perhaps she was already a tradesperson as a Polish immigrant back then?

        You've inspired me to come up with a preliminary Pennsylvania team:

        MEN
        100, Leory Burrell, Barney Ewell, Ben Johnson
        (4x1 Jon Drummond)
        200, Allen Woodring, Ewell, Don Lippincott
        400, Ted Meredith, Bill Carr, John Taylor
        (4x4 Maurice Peoples)
        800, Meredith, Mel Sheppard, John Woodruff
        1500, Sheppard, Gene Venzke, Larry Shields
        St, Horace Ashenfelter, Pat Traynor, Jim Dare
        5000, Curt Stone, Greg Fredericks, John Romig
        10,000, Stone, Fredericks, Dick Hart
        110H, Bill Porter, Erv Hall, Crip Moore
        400H, Charlie Moore, Josh Culbreath, Mike Shine
        HJ, Tom Moffitt, Howard Spencer, Ron Livers
        PV, Sabin Carr, Rolando Cruz, Truman Gardner
        LJ, Bo Roberson, Herb Douglas, Jason Grimes
        TJ, Ira Davis, Bill Sharpe, Livers
        SP, Ralph Hills, Billy Joe, Ron Semkiw
        DT, Vic Frank, Erv Jaros, Brian Milne
        HT, Frank Connor, Don Gwinn, Caleb Gates
        JT, Steve Seymour, Al Cantello, Bill Schmidt
        Dec, Barney Berlinger, Jim Wooding, Roy Mercer
        Walks, ??

        WOMEN (leaders only, and I'm probably omitting some recent people)
        100, Juliet Cuthbert
        200, Dawn Sowell
        400, Sharon Dabney
        800, Kim Gallagher
        1500, Gallagher (or Shayne Culpepper)
        5000, Amy Rudolph
        10,000, Kate Fonshell
        Mar, Martha White
        100H, Candy Young
        400H, Loriu McCauley
        HJ, Jean Shiley
        LJ, Dawn Burrell
        TJ, Donna Crumety
        SP, Janet Dicks
        DT, Colleen Rosensteel
        JT, Karen Anderson
        Hep, Rebecca Grube

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        • #5
          Re: All-State Teams

          I believe Stella belongs on the men's team.

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          • #6
            Re: All-State Teams

            Ohio's women have a much shorter history (along with 49 other states) and so an all-star team would be much more difficult to assemble. However, I've got some resources.

            100--Brenda Morehead, Passion Richardson, D'Andre Hill
            200--Morehead, Vivian Brown Reed
            400--Nancy Shafer-Boudreau
            800--Madeline Manning, Nancy Shafer Boudreau
            1500--Manning
            3k/5k--Brenda Webb, Lauri Gomez-Henes
            Marathon--Julie Ipshording
            100H--LaVonna Martin, Donnica Merriman
            400H--Tonja Buford-Bailey, Mary Ayers
            HJ--Estelle Baskerville, Eleanor Montgomery
            SP--Frances Kaszubski
            DT--Kaszubski, Roberta Collins, Krista Keir
            JT--Kim Kreiner
            Heptathlon--Peggy Odita
            Walks--Jill Zenner

            My source, Craig Whitmore, has gone to extensive and often ridiculous lengths to research the history of Ohio track & field. He does not list a specific high school for Stanislawa Walasciewicz, better known as Stella Walsh. "She" did not represent the USA in international competition, and turned out to not quite fit the definition of female (if you don't already know, an autopsy in 1980 revealed some problems). So put her on the 100, 200, long jump, and pentathlon/heptathlon team if you like, or not.

            From my desk right now I can see the discus cage where Roberta Collins threw 173 feet for an Ohio HS record. Some guys were using a football practice field for rugby that day, and when Roberta's flight came up for warmups the official went out and suggested they move back. They looked at the cage, nearly 200 feet away, and laughed. Roberta skidded a warmup out by their feet and they decided to move! Another stadium record right here is 19'4" for the LJ by Brenda Morehead. Not that impressive for you west-coast guys, but for Toledo it's pretty good.

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