At Long Last, After Many Promises......

[gh]

We've begun to post the all-time national championship results, 1876-2003, by event. See the box on the front page. We'll try to add an event or two every day until we're done. Thanks again to Bill Mallon and Ian Buchanan for their incredible hard work in putting the original book together.

(This posted on Current Events board as well)

[MJD]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

1905
100 yards; S/F: 5/5; D: 05 AUG
1. Charles Parsons 9.8 =MR

Given this, I guess an American went 9.7 sometime between 1901 and 1905. Who was it?

[satch400]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

hey baby this ROCKS, NIRVANA for trivia cats. When HJ DWEEB sees this he will pee his pants!

[dj]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

>1905
100 yards; S/F: 5/5; D: 05 AUG
1. Charles Parsons 9.8 =MR

Given
>this, I guess an American went 9.7 sometime between 1901 and 1905. Who was
>it?

Arthur Duffey ran 9 3/5 at IC4A in 1902. Duffey was subsequently banned for professionalism by the AAU.

Duffey and AAU president James Sullivan feuded over the shoes Duffey was wearing. Sullivan and A.G. Spalding (of baseball fame) were in cahoots (Spalding published the AAU rule books and many other sports books of the time), and Duffey made a major point of denying that he wore Spalding shoes. They fought, Duffey lost.

[Hulk]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

Great stuff. I love the "old fashioned" results. They're quite judgemental!

>>1924
>>1. Charles Paddock 9.6 =MR,=AR,=WR
>>2. Loren Murchison inches bh
>>3. Alfred Leconey poor 3rd
>>4. Cyril Coaffee (CAN) poor 4th
>>5. Eldrud Andrus

If 3rd and 4th were poor, I guess words don't do 5th place any justice at all.

[MJD]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

>>1905
100 yards; S/F: 5/5; D: 05 AUG
1. Charles Parsons 9.8 =MR
>

Given
>this, I guess an American went 9.7 sometime between 1901 and 1905.
>Who was
>it?

Arthur Duffey ran 9 3/5 at IC4A in 1902. Duffey was
>subsequently banned for professionalism by the AAU.

That doesn't answer the question I don't think. For the site to be accurate, I think that there has to be an answer to that question.

[gh]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

huh? The chronology is quite clear as presented by the results. Owen set MR at 9.8 in '90, Wefers equaled it in '97, Sears equaled it in '01, Parsons equaledit in '05. What's fuzzy about that?

[MJD]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

>huh? The chronology is quite clear as presented by the results. Owen set MR at
>9.8 in '90, Wefers equaled it in '97, Sears equaled it in '01, Parsons
>equaledit in '05. What's fuzzy about that?

Maybe nothing but that wasn't my question. All I'm saying is that if no American ran 9.7 between 1901 and 1905 somewhere, something is up because, by 1905, the 9.8 was only the meet record and no longer the AR-or WR for that matter. It was really just a trivia question. The Hulk must be wondering too or he wouldn't have bumped the thread(which he edited out of there-maybe he agrees with you-I did say I think).

[MJD]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

Ok here is what I am looking for-9.6 actually:

9.6 Arthur Duffey USA New York May 31, 1902

[BillVol]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

Fantastic! Great work!

[MJD]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

>as cited by DJ a couple of posts up

My bad. I didn't pay that much attention to the post because I thought that when one got banned, the record got yanked. I was hung up on the 9.7 too.

[gh]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

as cited by DJ a couple of posts up

[MJD]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

>as cited by DJ a couple of posts up

How the heck did that happen-briefly, gh's post said posted "Less ths -1 minutes ago." The posts are out of order.

[dj]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

Arthur Duffey wasn't banned by the AAU until late October of 1905. He was still the AR holder at the time of the 1905 AAU meet.

[vacationsteve]

Re: At Long Last, After Many Promises......

>hey baby this ROCKS, NIRVANA for trivia cats. When HJ DWEEB sees this he will
>pee his pants!


HEY !!!!! I am on vacation in Aspen ! Leave me alone !!

hjsteve