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  • A few TFN rankings trivia questions

    As I've been slowly absorbing the 2013 AOY edition of the mag, I find myself asking more rankings trivia questions:
    - which athletes have scored the most points in an event without ever being ranked #1?
    - which athletes have scored the most points in an event BEFORE being ranked #1?
    - likewise in terms of numbers of years ranked?

    I can't recall seeing any edition telling us these titbits... and I'm too lazy to try and calculae

  • #2
    Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

    I'm guesssing Larry Myricks has to figure in here somewhere, in the long jump, behind Carl Lewis.

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    • #3
      Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

      Audun Boysen of Norway in the 800 was ranked every year from 1950 through 1958. Certainly 2nd in 1955 after Moens.

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      • #4
        Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

        Myricks was ranked 1st in 1979.
        Josh Culbreath was never #1 in the intermediates and he ranked from 1953 - 1960.

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        • #5
          Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

          Originally posted by Per Andersen
          Audun Boysen of Norway in the 800 was ranked every year from 1950 through 1958. Certainly 2nd in 1955 after Moens.
          Nice get.
          Boysen went #4, 10, 5, 4, 3, 2, 7, 7 so pointswise that 7+1+6+7+8+9+4+4 =46
          Looking at other 800 men:
          Mark Everett went #4, 3, 6, 3, 4, 5 = 41 pts
          Johnny Gray went #5, 2, 3, 2, 6, 7, 9, 4, 2, 10, 9 = 53 pts
          James Robinson was #9, 4, 3, 5, 2, 3, 6, 9 = 47 points
          Willi Wulbeck was 42 pts

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          • #6
            Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

            Just eye balling the men's LJ, we have:
            James Beckford, never ranked #1, but did rank 11 times between 1995 and 2007.
            Ranks = 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 5, 6, 7 for 81 points

            Igor Ter-Ovanesyan ranked 12 times between 1957 and 1968, before finally ranking #1 in 1969.
            Ranks = 6, 3, 2, 3, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 4 for 98 points

            I'd guess some of the throwing events could probably beat those, as they tend to have a long career.

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            • #7
              Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

              Poking around some more, I find in the mDT
              John Powell, ranked 13 times between 1972 and 1987, and never ranked #1
              Ranks: 5, 4, 2, 3, 3, 4, 6, 5, 4, 6, 4, 4, 4 for 89 points

              Also in wDT
              Ellina Zvereva ranked 14 times between 1984 and 2006, and never ranked #1
              Ranks: 9, 5, 7, 6, 9, 10, 2, 2, 2, 2, 5, 8, 2, 2, 3, 5 for 97 points

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              • #8
                Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                Don't forget Calvin Smith 10 years in the 100m 10-2-2-6-6-6-5-2-7-6 = 58 points

                and Steve Scott 1500 11 years 9-7-3-4-4-2-2-8-7-3-9 = 64 points

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                • #9
                  Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                  Interesting trivia... but shouldn't low score win?

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                  • #10
                    Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                    Originally posted by lonewolf
                    Interesting trivia... but shouldn't low score win?
                    They're adding points, not places. 10th place =1 pt, 9th place =2 pts, etc. So high score should win.

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                    • #11
                      Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                      Gotcha, Thanks

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                      • #12
                        Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                        Great get on Beckford (and T-O).

                        In search of more men near Powell's 89 pts and Beckford's 81 pt, here's what I've found
                        Tim Lobinger (MPV - 1996-2007): (#7, 3, 5, 4, 4, 2, 2, 9, 4, 2, 8) = 71 pts
                        Ivor Nikulin (MHT - 1980-1994): (#4, 8, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 6, 3, 6, 2, 6) = 85 pts

                        I haven't looked at HJ, TJ, Dec or any more track/road

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                        • #13
                          Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                          Originally posted by AS
                          Originally posted by Per Andersen
                          Audun Boysen of Norway in the 800 was ranked every year from 1950 through 1958. Certainly 2nd in 1955 after Moens.
                          Nice get.
                          Boysen went #4, 10, 5, 4, 3, 2, 7, 7 so pointswise that 7+1+6+7+8+9+4+4 =46
                          Looking at other 800 men:
                          Mark Everett went #4, 3, 6, 3, 4, 5 = 41 pts
                          Johnny Gray went #5, 2, 3, 2, 6, 7, 9, 4, 2, 10, 9 = 53 pts
                          James Robinson was #9, 4, 3, 5, 2, 3, 6, 9 = 47 points
                          Willi Wulbeck was 42 pts
                          It seems Boysen also was 2nd in 1956 so 9 more points and 55 total

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                          • #14
                            Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                            Originally posted by Per Andersen
                            It seems Boysen also was 2nd in 1956 so 9 more points and 55 total
                            Terrence Trammell got 74 points (11 rankings from 2000 to 2011), Alejandro Casanas 71 points (11 rankings from 1972 to 1983) and Tonie Campbell 68 points (11 rankings from 1980 to 1990). Best scores in a track event?

                            Also, Jack Pierce ranked 11 times, Mark McKoy and Florian Schwarthoff 10 times each. It looks like the high hurdles are a good event for longevity.
                            Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                            • #15
                              Re: A few TFN rankings trivia questions

                              Harald Schmid would have been very near the top had Ed Moses not taken a year off in 1982, alowing him to get the only no. 1 ranking of his career...
                              Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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