The mighty SEC and the 200m

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Check out an all Cali schools 200m.

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1.Mel Patton USC Olympic Champion
2.Mike Marsh UCLA Olympic Champion
3.Tommie Smith SJS Olympic Champion
4.Don Quarrie USC Olympic Champion
5.Ato Boldon UCLA Olympic bronze
6.Charles Paddock USC Olympic silver
7.John Carlos SJS Olympic Bronze
8.Mike Agostini Fresno State 20.1 WR

"B"

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1.Larry Questad Stanford
2.Chuck Smith Occidental
3.Hal Davis Cal
4.Steve Williams SDS
5.Ronnie Ray Smith SJS
6.Clancy Edwards USC
7.Ray Norton SJS
8.Atlee Mahorn Cal

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

I think Vol Mike Miller should be in that 4x2, also, Dixon.

I totally agree, how that Green Bay Packer got by me...??? A 20.1 guy wasn't he?

I'll fix it!

[BillVol]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

I think Vol Mike Miller should be in that 4x2, also, Dixon.

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

If we look at the 200m and the old Big10 we see some history there.

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1.Marshall Dill MSU
2.Albert Robinson Indiana
3.Jesse Owens Ohio State
4.Eddie Tolan Michigan
5.Larry Burton Purdue
6.Chris Nelloms Ohio State
7.Herb McKenley Illinois
8.Mike Goodrich Indiana

Won't count Barney Ewell for obvious reasons. I guess Missouri with Jackson Shotlz was in the Big10 way back when.....I think.

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Gatlin's first suspension was utter bullshit.

When we see a "great" sprinter like Gatlin was at Tennessee, I believe fast times. I have no doubts of any kind he was a 19.8 guy. His margin of victory tells us that.

[JumboElliott]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Gatlin's first suspension was utter bullshit.

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Except that 1 of your 9 sub-20 SEC guys never legally ran under 20.00 - Gatlin, who ran 19.86 but was disqualified for doping (the first time he was dqed), and his legal best is 20.00

The practise of calling someone a Texan because they were born there , when raised elsewhere is a bit strange. Both Paddock and Smith were essentially Californians - both ran at the Californian State HS meet and went to College in California

Ok then forget Gatlin, that still leaves 11 SEC sprinters with sub 20.00 times, far more than Jamaica. And if we wanna go with sub 20.20, then it's all about the SEC.

Who really thinks Justin Gatlin couldn't run a sub20,00?

I agree about the "Texan" thing, but it's no different than a guy like Ato Boldon running for Trinidad.

[rhymans]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Except that 1 of your 9 sub-20 SEC guys never legally ran under 20.00 - Gatlin, who ran 19.86 but was disqualified for doping (the first time he was dqed), and his legal best is 20.00

The practise of calling someone a Texan because they were born there , when raised elsewhere is a bit strange. Both Paddock and Smith were essentially Californians - both ran at the Californian State HS meet and went to College in California

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

While not as fast, the Pac10 (yep, Pac10) did have some Olympians.

All Olympic 200m men.

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1.Michael Bates Arizona
2.Mike Marsh UCLA
3.Larry Questad Stanford
4.Henry Carr ASU
5.Don Quarrie USC
6.Millard Hampton UCLA
7.Dwayne Evans ASU
8.Ato Boldon UCLA

Evans, Bates and Boldon were only bronze medalists: add Mel Patton (USC) with a gold, Charley Paddock (USC) with a pair of silvers and Mack Robinson (Oregon) with a silver.

FWIW, Paddock was a Texas product by birth. Mack Robinson (older brother of Jackie) was born in Geogia.

For years I just assumed Tommie Smith was a Cali guy, he went to Lemoore HS, not too far from where I;'m sitting. Nope, he was Texas born.

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Those are 4X200 I assume.

Speaking of assume, I assumed it was obvious

[user4]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

While not as fast, the Pac10 (yep, Pac10) did have some Olympians.

All Olympic 200m men.

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1.Michael Bates Arizona
2.Mike Marsh UCLA
3.Larry Questad Stanford
4.Henry Carr ASU
5.Don Quarrie USC
6.Millard Hampton UCLA
7.Dwayne Evans ASU
8.Ato Boldon UCLA

Evans, Bates and Boldon were only bronze medalists: add Mel Patton (USC) with a gold, Charley Paddock (USC) with a pair of silvers and Mack Robinson (Oregon) with a silver.

FWIW, Paddock was a Texas product by birth. Mack Robinson (older brother of Jackie) was born in Geogia.

[user4]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Those are 4X200 I assume.

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Hell, the Pac10 can do this...

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1.Arizona...Dwayne Strozier...Wardell Gilbreath...Larry Dunn...Michael Bates
2.Cal...Forest Beatty...Eddie Hart...Atlee Mahorn...Hal Davis
3.USC "A"...Clancy Edwards....James Gilkes...James Sanford...Don Quarrie
4.UCLA "A"...Ato Boldon...Henry Thomas,,,Millard Hampton...Mike Marsh
5.ASU..Dwayne Evans...Lamont King...Jerry Bright...Henry Carr
6.Oregon...Pat Johnson...Don Coleman...George Walcott...Harry Jerome
7.USC "B"...Mel Patton..Willie Deckard..Payton Jordan...Charles Paddock
8.Washington...Pablo Franco...Lanoris Marshall...Bernie Jackson...J' Warren Hooker
9.UCLA "B"...Danny Everett...Eric Brown...Warren Edmonson..Tom Jones

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

Dixon - are you sure that there are no countries that compare with the SEC? or had you forgotten Jamaica (8 at 19.98, 7 at 19.80, 6 at 19.86, 2 faster than any SEC athlete)

There are more sub20.00 200m sprinters out of the SEC (both can use Mullings). All those I mentioned above then ya add...

Rodney Martin So. Carolina
Dedric Dukes Florida
Steve Mullings MSU

Think about this, an NCAA conference in a speed debate with Jamaica, whoa~~~~

[Dixon]

Re: The mighty SEC and the 200m

While not as fast, the Pac10 (yep, Pac10) did have some Olympians.

All Olympic 200m men.

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1.Michael Bates Arizona
2.Mike Marsh UCLA
3.Larry Questad Stanford
4.Henry Carr ASU
5.Don Quarrie USC
6.Millard Hampton UCLA
7.Dwayne Evans ASU
8.Ato Boldon UCLA

Evans, Bates and Boldon were only bronze medalists: add Mel Patton (USC) with a gold, Charley Paddock (USC) with a pair of silvers and Mack Robinson (Oregon) with a silver.

I was looking more at times with this, so I went with the faster times.(yes I know but didn't wanna play era with this) The SEC having so many "fast" 200m sprinters. But....as we can see not even the SEC compares to the Pac10 when it comes to Olympic success.