Originally posted by Gabriella2
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From what I gather, Bolt's fastest 10m split in Beijing was 0.82 (50-60m, 60-70m, 70-80m).
In Berlin, he ran 0.81 between 60-70m.
Gay ran 0.80 in his 9.68(+4.1)
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The big ? is where the 0.81 split comes from. The only way to get accurate 10m splits is to have a high-speed camera positioned at each of the split points, which have to be somehow marked on the track/curb.
Splits taken from a single video (which is typically where they come from) are useless in 100th-second accuracy because the frame rate is wrong and there's the parallax error problem.Leave a comment:
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Good point. The -1.3 was an average of the wind over the 10 seconds after the start of the race just inside lane 1 halfway down the straight. It does not necessarily follow that the same wind was experienced by Johnson in his lane for just one twelfth of that time.Originally posted by Conor Dary View PostLeave a comment:
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I think you are over simplifying things a bit and overreaching in your analysis....like knowing it was a headwind on that segment...and the stuff on tracks, shoes etc.....Leave a comment:
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i don't mean that his top end overall i.e. multiple 10m segments back to back were on par with bolt's but I'm talking about over 20 years before bolt ran 9.58 and split a 0.81 during that race, bj had already done it albeit in just one 10m segment.
my point is that 0.81 split was done during the 80's on inferior track surfaces and spikes etc, and into a -1.3mp/s headwind. if that were in still conditions that split becomes 0.69-0.70 for a 10m segment and that split is in still air, imagine if that now has a slight tailwind to it.
that is the point i am trying to make that for that 10m segment during this race, not 'THE' but certainly the potential was there for what might if the conditions were as i spoke of, quite possibly could be the fastest 10m segment ever covered period, that is impressive.
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Hi, a 0.81 10m split was recorded from this race and into that headwind, to play devils advocate what would that split have been worth in still 0.0 wind?, and even with a moderate tailwind behind it?, a tremendous display of speed if only for 10 meters but still mighty.Leave a comment:
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i find it hard to believe that anyone ever had a higher top-end speed than the obvious answer, Mr. BoltLeave a comment:
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Harvey Glance, King Carl, Calvin Smith and Lindford Christie all in the mix!Leave a comment:
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ben johnson top end fastest ever?
Hi,
not a popular topic i know on here and i almost wish he was not busted for drugs as i still think he was a world beater clean but hey ho on that, no my actual question is was Ben Johnson bio-mechanically one of the most gifted sprinters and although he was on the juice what he achieved in what i am about to say is still impressive for a human being, juice or not, and i don't mean to make roids sound OK.
what i am talking about was a 100m race which took place in Zurich i think from either 1986 or 1987 in which bj won and beat Carl Lewis i think but i'm not sure if he was in the race?.
but big Ben split a 0.81 for a 10m segment during that race, now the race is on YouTube and whilst the end time was nothing spectacular, perhaps for the mid to late 80's it was, what was really spectacular and would still be spectacular even today is first a 0.81 split but this was achieved on 80's track surface with 80's spikes etc and the croup de grace that this was achieved into a minus 1.3 mp/s headwind.
so may i ask any stat guys or gals in general what would that 0.81 10m split have been in still wind, and then say a 1.5-2.0 mp/s tailwind?, also add to the fact that if this was on today's surfaces with spikes etc and the mind boggles and what is perhaps one of the most underrated yet could be argued certainly one of the most impressive pieces of what if human performances in terms of pure speed juice or not EVER?
your thoughts, stats, opinions etc would be most welcome thanks.
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