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  • Flop best on sawdust pit

    Does anyone know what the world's best is for the flop landing on a sawdust pit? Or best guess?

  • #2
    IMO. If ever there was a stupid question asked on this message board, this would be it.

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    • #3
      I broke my left wrist high jumping into a sawdust pit when I was in the ninth grade, but I certainly wasn't doing the flop!

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      • #4
        Hey, I remember jumping into SAND !!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
          IMO. If ever there was a stupid question asked on this message board, this would be it.
          You obviously don't get out much....

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          • #6
            When I jumped sawdust and foam had not been invented...it was either sand or spaded up dirt.. of course flop had not been invented either.
            Last edited by lonewolf; 03-27-2019, 03:27 AM.

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            • #7
              Of course modern pits are what enabled the flop to work. No question about that.

              Haven’t there been discussions/videos of younger athletes doing something akin to the flop without a modern pit? (Kids, don’t try this at home or anywhere else for that matter).

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              • #8
                I remember in school we had sacks full of wood-shavings or something (but not foam) - and this was quite a few years after the flop (or brill-bend) came into vogue.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Vault-emort View Post
                  I remember in school we had sacks full of wood-shavings or something (but not foam) - and this was quite a few years after the flop (or brill-bend) came into vogue.
                  In primary school (60s-70s), everybody jumped barefoot scissors from grass to grass over a triangular bar.

                  The only sawdust we had was in the long jump pit because we were just across the creek from a sawmill. A fresh dump was quite nice to land in but it lasted about one PE session before the pit was empty again and we had to make do for the rest of the term.

                  In high school, we started to get thin, hard foam mats covered with canvas that was so taut, it was like sandpaper on bare skin if you had any horizantal speed at all. Still mostly scissors or self developed proto western rolls.

                  A few of us tried the flop (badly) but those mats along with the old-style triangular bars didn't really encourage anybody in that direction.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
                    When I jumped sawdust and foam had not been invented...it was either sand or spaded up dirt.. of course flop had not been invented either.
                    In the 1960s we had our Waikato provincial champs in the small village of Waharoa because it was the most central location in the province. The high jump was always into a sawdust pit which first had to always be cleared if the sheep droppings; and similarly the long jump sand pit

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dave View Post
                      Of course modern pits are what enabled the flop to work. No question about that.
                      Correct.
                      Of course, there are several instances in HJ history when jumpers used a modified scissor or back-to-the-bar scissor which with modern pits could easily have evolved into the flop.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
                        IMO. If ever there was a stupid question asked on this message board, this would be it.
                        that kind of ad hominem attack is expressly forbidden here; you should be ashamed of yourself.

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                        • #13
                          Bob Avant's style looked particularly dangerous jumping into sawdust, but his arms were in position to break his fall.

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                          • #14
                            A flopper in 1932....

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                            • #15
                              As I'm sure I have mentioned sometime, I taught myself to flop in the winter of 68-69 and reached 6' that spring. We had a great foam pit, other schools less so, but manageable, till the last regular season meet, where it was not only saw-dust, but not much of it all. I scissored in warm-ups, but then my 'coach' (he had no idea what I was doing) came over and thankfully forbade me from competing. The host school had to forfeit the event to us - 9 points, and we won the meet by 5.

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