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  • Dear Red States:

    We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii , Oregon , Washington , Minnesota , Wisconsin, Michigan , Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

    To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

    Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.

    With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford , Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University , Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite , thank you.

    Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.

    Send us a postcard.

    Peace out,
    Blue States
    [PS - We also get Hawaii and are happy to cede you Alaska]

  • #2
    62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws

    You really cant see the differance between an innocent baby and a viscious killer? REALLY? :?
    phsstt!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SQUACKEE
      You really cant see the differance between an innocent baby and a viscious killer? REALLY? :?
      Re: the death penalty. In the last 16 years the Innocence Project has help free at lease 220 innocent prisoners based on DNA evidence. Not all of these were death row inmates, but how comfortable are you that we are always using the death penalty against just the guilty?? Me, not so much.

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      • #4
        Don't you guys know that the death penalty is God's command?

        http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/htm ... mmand_.asp

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        • #5
          Let's talk important stuff --- who gets Joe the Plumber, and who gets
          Colin Powell?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bad hammy
            Originally posted by SQUACKEE
            You really cant see the differance between an innocent baby and a viscious killer? REALLY? :?
            Re: the death penalty. In the last 16 years the Innocence Project has help free at lease 220 innocent prisoners based on DNA evidence. Not all of these were death row inmates, but how comfortable are you that we are always using the death penalty against just the guilty?? Me, not so much.
            What % of babies were who were aborted were quilty of anything? Thats the original point that i was making.

            I wouldnt allow the death penalty unless you pretty got a freaking video tape and that means Scott Simpson doesnt fry in my world. Some people have to fry and like i said if ya got a head in your fridge you either come up with a real good excuse or see ya.

            And we cant forget the families of murdered victims who need justice so they can get on with their lives the best they can. Where is the compassion for them?
            phsstt!

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            • #7
              Weak, Jack. We could have fun with this one, too. We get Thomas Jefferson; you get Barney Frank. Etc.

              http://uspolitics.about.com/gi/dynamic/ ... 235453.php

              Alas, it's not Jack's writing after all.

              http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/80714812.html

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                And we cant forget the families of murdered victims who need justice so they can get on with their lives the best they can. Where is the compassion for them?
                So killing folks is compassionate?? With the certain knowledge that some small percentage of those executed did nothing wrong???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bad hammy
                  Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                  And we cant forget the families of murdered victims who need justice so they can get on with their lives the best they can. Where is the compassion for them?
                  So killing folks is compassionate??
                  The innocent are collateral damage?

                  Revenge is primal and the families of victims should to be allowed to satisfy it to the full. Beware those who kill, your time will come. At least i assume that is the argument?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bad hammy
                    Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                    And we cant forget the families of murdered victims who need justice so they can get on with their lives the best they can. Where is the compassion for them?
                    So killing folks is compassionate?? With the certain knowledge that some small percentage of those executed did nothing wrong???
                    Some murder victims, following their extreme (and rightful) prejudice for the law to be carried out to its fullest, have actually been known to embrace the very persons who have snatched their family members away rather than continue life bitter. There are True Movie accounts of folks who have done so... one is a woman whose son was murdered, and, eventually, after lobbying for years to keep the criminal locked away with no parole, she helps enable his parole and release back to his own family.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bad hammy
                      Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                      And we cant forget the families of murdered victims who need justice so they can get on with their lives the best they can. Where is the compassion for them?
                      So killing folks is compassionate?? With the certain knowledge that some small percentage of those executed did nothing wrong???
                      First of all let me say that being against the death penalty is a very reasonable point of view, i dont share it but i understand it.

                      I am only taking about a very specific case. What you bring up is also a very specific case, executing the wrong man.....of course thats not compassionate and i never said it was.

                      I am for executing the guy who kidnapped the little girl, raped her and buried her alive.

                      Now you would say what about the innocent people executed and i would say what about the hundreds and hundreds of felons who murdered and were paroled and murdered again?

                      ALL of my compassion is for the victims, i dont have any for the viscious and cruel killers who willingly take a human life, i just dont.
                      phsstt!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                        First of all let me say that being against the death penalty is a very reasonable point of view, i dont share it but i understand it.

                        I am only taking about a very specific case. What you bring up is also a very specific case, executing the wrong man.....of course thats not compassionate and i never said it was.

                        I am for executing the guy who kidnapped the little girl, raped her and buried her alive.
                        To be clear, I am not 100% anti-death penalty. There are obviously some cases that are irrefutably clear as to who was responsible and heinous enough to be worthy of the death penalty. But in my opinion, here in the US we use this tool far too much and in far too many dubious cases.

                        Additionally, there are many places in the world where there is no death penalty and yet people are generally safer than they are here in the US, so it is not clear that the death penalty is helping to make this country a better place to live.

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                        • #13
                          Jack, attribution of your source is always good. It could be copyrighted, but doesn't appear so.

                          http://groups.google.com/group/alt.poli ... raot&fwc=1

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bad hammy
                            Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                            First of all let me say that being against the death penalty is a very reasonable point of view, i dont share it but i understand it.

                            I am only taking about a very specific case. What you bring up is also a very specific case, executing the wrong man.....of course thats not compassionate and i never said it was.

                            I am for executing the guy who kidnapped the little girl, raped her and buried her alive.
                            To be clear, I am not 100% anti-death penalty. There are obviously some cases that are irrefutably clear as to who was responsible and heinous enough to be worthy of the death penalty. But in my opinion, here in the US we use this tool far too much and in far too many dubious cases.

                            Additionally, there are many places in the world where there is no death penalty and yet people are generally safer than they are here in the US, so it is not clear that the death penalty is helping to make this country a better place to live.
                            To be clear, I am not 100% anti-death penalty...im not either
                            phsstt!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bad hammy
                              To be clear, I am not 100% anti-death penalty.
                              Well, I am! State-sponsored murder is no different than self-sponsored murder (to me - your mileage may differ). Solitary confinement for the rest of your life (and since all life is precious, yes, we the tax-payers, will bear the financial burden) is cruel and unusual punishment, but I'm OK with it!

                              To answer squackee's next question, yes, if someone attacked my family, I probably would kill them, but if they were just arrested and tried and found guilty, I would not want them executed. But if they were found not guilty and I knew they were guilty . . .

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