How come Nancy Pelosi's businesses are all non-union?

[malmo]

Why?

[EPelle]

Unions are great watch-dogs for ensuring member rights are maintained. There are organisations, however (as I am sure you and other posters are fully aware) which do treat their employees with respect, empower them and engage them - keys which are vital to ensuring teamwork is accomplished and folks have an opportunity to advance within their fields.

What is a non-union environment meant to epitomise here?

[jazzcyclist]

Just like the Republican party, the Democratic party is a party of people with divergent interests. Pelosi represents one wing of the Democratic party, which really has little in common with the Scranton/Jim Webb wing of the Democratic party.

[malmo]

Unions are great watch-dogs for ensuring member rights are maintained.

Ridiculous.

[EPelle]

Not entirely. I just arbitrated for one against an employer whose managers seriously and grossly compromised the health, safety and well-being of its employees. Union:s only desire was to have action taken on the issues. Court decided in favour.

Some (many? most?) have other motives for forming their organisaitions and encouraging strength in numbers, which is why I can appreciate your statement against such kinds.

[Marlow]

Unions are great watch-dogs for ensuring member rights are maintained.

Ridiculous.

Instead of "maintained", I would substitute "established". It is not management's mandate to establish workers' rights (some do, some don't). It is, however, the union's mandate to establish a codification of workers' 'rights' (not in the narrow Constitutional sense, but a broader, 'reasonable expectations' sense) Once established these 'rights' are everyone's responsibility to 'maintain'.

[Mighty Favog]

Workers don't vote to form a union willy-nilly. There are downsides to them, the most obvious of which is paying dues, but it also creates work rules that can get a bit weird. Bottom line, mistrust of management has to be at a relatively high level for a majority of workers. As for unions that have been in place for generations...well, a vote to certify a different union every 20-30 years wouldn't be a bad idea. (And this comes from a guy who first walked a picket line when I was 7 years old, with my father, and been a loyal union member for 14 years.)

If Pelosi's companies had a habit of taking advantage of their workers and used intimidation to influence a union vote, you can bet sites like DailyKos would let people know about it. I see nothing wrong with companies that treat employees well enough that they don't think a union is warranted.

[malmo]

If Pelosi's companies had a habit of taking advantage of their workers and used intimidation to influence a union vote, you can bet sites like DailyKos would let people know about it. .

Whatever you're smoking, it's illegal.

[tandfman]

Sorry, malmo, I think you're going to find yourself outnumbered on this issue. I've always been a management guy myself, but my parents were union members, and I've always believed that unions, in general, have been a very positive force in our nation's economic history.

[jazzcyclist]

If Pelosi's companies had a habit of taking advantage of their workers and used intimidation to influence a union vote, you can bet sites like DailyKos would let people know about it. .

Whatever you're smoking, it's illegal.

I agree with Mighty. In the primaries, when Obama started to stray to far to the right, like with his FISA vote, leftwing media outlets like Moveon.org, the DailyKos and the Huffington Post pounced on him until he got back in line.

[Marlow]

I agree with Mighty. In the primaries, when Obama started to stray to far to the right, like with his FISA vote, leftwing media outlets like Moveon.org, the DailyKos and the Huffington Post pounced on him until he got back in line.

Ditto - left-wing blogsters LOVE to do the dirty laundry thing and then take credit for 'putting things in line again'.

[malmo]

Sorry, malmo, I think you're going to find yourself outnumbered on this issue. I've always been a management guy myself, but my parents were union members, and I've always believed that unions, in general, have been a very positive force in our nation's economic history.

So was the steam engine, cotton gin, and internal combustion engine. Unions have no place in a modern industrial society, in fact, they have a negative impact on productivity wherever their suffocating influence exists today - in government, big education-industrial-complex, and the auto industry, for example.

[racewalker]

Sorry, malmo, I think you're going to find yourself outnumbered on this issue. I've always been a management guy myself, but my parents were union members, and I've always believed that unions, in general, have been a very positive force in our nation's economic history.

So was the steam engine, cotton gin, and internal combustion engine. Unions have no place in a modern industrial society, in fact, they have a negative impact on productivity wherever their suffocating influence exists today - in government, big education-industrial-complex, and the auto industry, for example.

You are painting with too broad of a brush.

I was in a union when I worked as a handler of (low-level) radioactive material. The union's main concern was for safety and as long management met the safety regulations, there was little problem. The stereotype of "only being allowed to do one thing in certain ways" certainly did not apply, either.

Also, my father-in-law was the owner of a company that made trailers for the military and he ENCOURAGED the unions to come in. He said that since the the goverment worked on a fixed contractual price, it helped to have a fixed and well-defined work structure to bid from. It also allowed an easier estimate of scheduling as well.

Yes, there are plenty of union abuses, but I've NEVER worked in a place where there were no management abuses.

[jazzcyclist]

Yes, there are plenty of union abuses, but I've NEVER worked in a place where there were no management abuses.

Amen! :!:

[jazzcyclist]

Unions have no place in a modern industrial society, in fact, they have a negative impact on productivity wherever their suffocating influence exists today - in government, big education-industrial-complex, and the auto industry, for example.

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