Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

[jazzcyclist]

This cat is a mamajama; he is a killer. He'll run over you, he'll kick your ass. But as an individual for social change, or any of that kind of shit? Terrible. Terrible.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watch ... ibble.html

Who was it that said, "To whom much is given, much is expected"?

[Marlow]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

This cat is a mamajama; he is a killer. He'll run over you, he'll kick your ass. But as an individual for social change, or any of that kind of shit? Terrible. Terrible.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watch ... ibble.html
Who was it that said, "To whom much is given, much is expected"?

Jim had far too many full-head helmet hits. Simply being the best in his sport is a very significant agent for change. Same for Obama, on a slightly larger (but not by much) scale.

[jazzcyclist]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

This cat is a mamajama; he is a killer. He'll run over you, he'll kick your ass. But as an individual for social change, or any of that kind of shit? Terrible. Terrible.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watch ... ibble.html
Who was it that said, "To whom much is given, much is expected"?

Jim had far too many full-head helmet hits. Simply being the best in his sport is a very significant agent for change. Same for Obama, on a slightly larger (but not by much) scale.

I disagree with your take when it comes to Obama. I don't think anyone should ever run for president if they don't have deeply held moral principles for which they're willing to risk not only a second term, but impeachment as well. I think the last president we had like that was Lyndon Johnson. IMO, very, very, very much is expected out the person who has been granted the greatest powers in the history of mankind.

[TrackDaddy]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

This cat is a mamajama; he is a killer. He'll run over you, he'll kick your ass. But as an individual for social change, or any of that kind of shit? Terrible. Terrible.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watch ... ibble.html

Who was it that said, "To whom much is given, much is expected"?

Jesus.

I wonder how he felt about radiometric carbon dating?

Jim Brown once said that Michael Jordan sells everything but stands for nothing.

Tiger didnt feel as though he was black because of his mixed race heritage.

Consequently it seems he once didnt feel he owed anything to those who came before him and desegregated the game.

Can you see him back in the 50s trying to explain to a bus driver in Selma that he wasnt black?

"But you dont understand....I'm cablasian"

:lol:

[jazzcyclist]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

Can you see him back in the 50s trying to explain to a bus driver in Selma that he wasnt black?

"But you dont understand....I'm cablasian"

:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
This reminds me of the question that Malcolm X once posed to a highly-educated, intellectual Black man. TD, what's gotten into you? You didn't stir things up like this at TrackShark.

[mcgato]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

Tiger didnt feel as though he was black because of his mixed race heritage.

Consequently it seems he once didnt feel he owed anything to those who came before him and desegregated the game.

I'd like to know when that was. I've been following Tiger since he was winning his first US amateur title at age 18. He has always been a student of the game of golf and its entire history. At his early appearances at the Masters he spoke of his gratitude to the minority pioneers of golf, like Charlie Sifford and Lee Elder.

Who was it that said, "To whom much is given, much is expected"?

I thought Gandalf said that.

[rasb]

I love the Robin Williams take on "Tiger". Paraphrasing, it was something like, "African-American athletic ability, and Buddhist concentration - what crazy German geneticist came up with that"? I'll re-watch the video later, and come up with the exact phrase, but it was typically brilliant...

[SQUACKEE]

Tiger is a nice guy who can hit a golf ball, thats it, isnt that enough. He has charities and obeys the law.

[TrackDaddy]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

Can you see him back in the 50s trying to explain to a bus driver in Selma that he wasnt black?

"But you dont understand....I'm cablasian"

:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
This reminds me of the question that Malcolm X once posed to a highly-educated, intellectual Black man. TD, what's gotten into you? You didn't stir things up like this at TrackShark.

Oh from time to time I did. :lol:

[TrackDaddy]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

Tiger didnt feel as though he was black because of his mixed race heritage.

Consequently it seems he once didnt feel he owed anything to those who came before him and desegregated the game.

I'd like to know when that was. I've been following Tiger since he was winning his first US amateur title at age 18. He has always been a student of the game of golf and its entire history. At his early appearances at the Masters he spoke of his gratitude to the minority pioneers of golf, like Charlie Sifford and Lee Elder.

Who was it that said, "To whom much is given, much is expected"?

I thought Gandalf said that.

You mean when did he say he wasnt black?

On a episode of Oprah, I believe. The rest of my response said that it SEEMED like he was saying that he didnt owe anything to those he followed. At least thats the way many people took it.

Luke 12:48 (New International Version)

48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

-Jesus

[Marlow]

Re: Jim Brown Calls Out Tiger Woods

From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. -Jesus

and of course, paraphrasing, Spiderman. :wink:

[BillVol]

TD, you are the most politically incorrect poster on here. But being black, you can get away with it. ;-)

[jazzcyclist]

TD, you are the most politically incorrect poster on here. But being black, you can get away with it. ;-)

So TD is the Charles Barkley of T&FN? :wink:

[BillVol]

TD, you are the most politically incorrect poster on here. But being black, you can get away with it. ;-)

So TD is the Charles Barkley of T&FN? :wink:

TD is one of the best on here. Race is such a touchy subject. I wish we could do away with it. I remember an interview with Billy Graham in which he was asked what one thing would he change about the world if he could. He said, "Race." He wished that different races could be eliminated and that we all could be one race, since different races are so divisive. Amen to that.

But we are stuck with having different races and different cultures. One of the best classes I had at UT was Black Literature (prolly called African-American Literature now). The great Langston Hughes (A Dream Deferred) and W.E.B. DuBois, graduate of our own Fisk University. This was a great class with a great prof, a drop-dead gorgeous black lady who graduated from Harvard. I always loved it when I could take a class from a Harvard grad at little ole UT. Anyhow, these days, I think how much it would mean to a black high schooler to be able to read the great works of the great black writers. But they aren't going to read them if they are bussed to a white school.

This is too complex of a subject and is probably going to get me banned.

[Daisy]

This is too complex of a subject and is probably going to get me banned.

Nothing you wrote deserves a ban.

You're right that it is complex. I'd say that the perception of race is one issue but if you take it away people will find another way to establish a pecking order. By the way, biologists have already taken it away.