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  • #16
    Originally posted by Marlow
    Originally posted by TrackDaddy
    I dont know about that, M.
    I think we're divided because we DONT discuss them.
    Therefore we work off presumptions which often become stereotypes and generalizations.
    And I thought that I was the board Pollyanna! In the vast majority of cases, when people 'debate' (argue!) they get MORE defensive on their original position, and the discussion gets MORE polarized. Think about it - how likely are YOU to change your opinion on any of those questions? If you're honest, you'll say, not likely. And as my final proof-point, think about the people who populate THIS forum. We're all pretty opinionated AND set in our ways. That MY answer and I ain't budging!! :twisted:
    You may not see people change their opinion or view on things. But that doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

    People are converted all the time. Religious conversions come to mind. People change political parties, etc.

    Discussions that challenge us make us think. Long after the discussion we manage the new information and use it to retool our thinking.

    Often with realizing it, and almost never acknowledging it.
    The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TrackDaddy
      You may not see people change their opinion or view on things. But that doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
      People are converted all the time. Religious conversions come to mind. People change political parties, etc.
      Discussions that challenge us make us think. Long after the discussion we manage the new information and use it to retool our thinking.
      Often with realizing it, and almost never acknowledging it.
      What a noble sentiment. Pure poppycock in regards to THIS forum, but noble. :P

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AthleticsInBritain
        Originally posted by TrackDaddy
        Originally posted by Marlow
        Originally posted by TrackDaddy
        I believe viewing and discussing some of these things could provide answers to some of these questions.
        Well, THAT'S not gonna happen! Typically these kinds of questions only serve to divide people, not bring them together.
        I dont know about that, M.

        I think we're divided because we DONT discuss them.

        Therefore we work off presumptions which often become stereotypes and generalizations.
        I'm not sure. I can think of several 'answers' to some of those questions, most of which would get me banned for certain! :lol:
        Hopefully not during Free Speech weekend.

        But you'll notice that I asked most of them in the form of a question to be on the safe side.
        The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gh
          Forget politically incorrect; thread under consideration for yanking for violating the "facts, not fiction" strictures.
          Personally, I'm in favor of keeping a thread over here that Marlow and TD can focus on for the day

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          • #20
            Originally posted by marknhj
            Originally posted by gh
            Forget politically incorrect; thread under consideration for yanking for violating the "facts, not fiction" strictures.
            Personally, I'm in favor of keeping a thread over here that Marlow and TD can focus on for the day
            LOL

            You're wrong for that, Mark. :lol:



            I think I was built for Free Speech Weekend.

            Thanks for any consideration in letting the thread stand, gh.
            The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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            • #21
              I may remove parts of your original post that are beyond the pale. "Free speech" was meant to connote an informed discussion of touchy subjects, not just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by marknhj
                Personally, I'm in favor of keeping a thread over here that Marlow and TD can focus on for the day
                And yet now, for no discernible reason, I find myself totally bored with this thread . . . :twisted:

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by marknhj
                  Originally posted by gh
                  Forget politically incorrect; thread under consideration for yanking for violating the "facts, not fiction" strictures.
                  Personally, I'm in favor of keeping a thread over here that Marlow and TD can focus on for the day
                  Agree, a perfect diversion from the meat.

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                  • #24
                    Are you surprised when you walk into a convenience store and an asian or a middle easterner isnt working the register?

                    Have ever seen an asian in this country driving an American made car?

                    For years people hired illegal aliens to mow their lawns, roof their houses, pave their driveways and even babysit their kids.They even hired them to fill full time jobs. In doing so they broke federal law. All because they knew they could cheat illegals by paying them less than their services were worth.

                    And now that they're done with them, they call them criminals and want them booted from the country.

                    Didnt both parties break the law? What do they want done about themselves?

                    Are mixed race people disproportionately famous and successsful?

                    My neighborhood is more diverse than yours.

                    My neighbor on one side is a white male with an asian wife. On the other side is a young white hetero couple. We're the hetero negroes in the middle. On one corner is a white male/male gay couple and across the street are two white female lesbians with a hispanic hetero couple next door. On the opposite corner is two elderly lesbians and a white elderly hetero couple. Across the street is a black woman with a large home who keeps elderly people for government subsidies. There's a black preacher family across the street from the young white lesbians and a young white hetero couple next to them. A phillipino couple moved in mid-block several months ago when an elderly white lady died and her home was sold.

                    No kidding.

                    Why could Archie Bunker, Fred Sanford and George Jefferson say things on TV 30 years ago that cant be said today?
                    The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by gh
                      I may remove parts of your original post that are beyond the pale. "Free speech" was meant to connote an informed discussion of touchy subjects, not just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.
                      LOL

                      I assure you that was not the intent.

                      Only trying to stimulate discussion amongst friends.

                      Hopefully I haven't offended anyone...or at least offended everyone.
                      The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                        Only trying to stimulate discussion amongst friends.

                        Hopefully I haven't offended anyone...or at least offended everyone.
                        Not offended but maybe one topic per thread would be more coherent. :?

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                        • #27
                          TD...do you, for those want to participate in the discussion do so and for those who don't, simply don't, not rocket science.

                          But I do agree TD, we may be divided because it's not discussed and as you pointed out, stereotypes and generalizations are then the order of the day.
                          on the road

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                            Originally posted by gh
                            I may remove parts of your original post that are beyond the pale. "Free speech" was meant to connote an informed discussion of touchy subjects, not just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.
                            LOL

                            I assure you that was not the intent.

                            Only trying to stimulate discussion amongst friends.

                            Hopefully I haven't offended anyone...or at least offended everyone.
                            Morgan Freeman said the way to get past race is quit talking about it. He said he didnt want to be called a blackman, he want to be called simply a man. I think there's some wisdom there.

                            I dont want to be labeled a white guy, i'm so much more than that! :P White men wear boring clothes, have beer bellies and if they have any soul they borrowed it. :x

                            I think one reason Ellen Degenrous sp? has an award winning talk show is she stopped screaming, "IM A LESBIAN!" Ellen, we know and we dont care, just be your funny- charming self.
                            phsstt!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Daisy
                              Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                              Only trying to stimulate discussion amongst friends.

                              Hopefully I haven't offended anyone...or at least offended everyone.
                              Not offended but maybe one topic per thread would be more coherent. :?
                              I did pick one topic.

                              Political incorrectness. See: thread title.
                              The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                                Originally posted by TrackDaddy
                                Originally posted by gh
                                I may remove parts of your original post that are beyond the pale. "Free speech" was meant to connote an informed discussion of touchy subjects, not just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks.
                                LOL

                                I assure you that was not the intent.

                                Only trying to stimulate discussion amongst friends.

                                Hopefully I haven't offended anyone...or at least offended everyone.
                                Morgan Freeman said the way to get past race is quit talking about it. He said he didnt want to be called a blackman, he want to be called simply a man. I think there's some wisdom there.

                                I dont want to be labeled a white guy, i'm so much more than that! :P White men wear boring clothes, have beer bellies and if they have any soul they borrowed it. :x

                                I think one reason Ellen Degenrous sp? has an award winning talk show is she stopped screaming, "IM A LESBIAN!" Ellen, we know and we dont care, just be your funny- charming self.
                                Morgan Freeman is wrong.

                                The way to get past the elephant in the room is to acknowledge it until everyone gets used to it.

                                If Ellen gets away from saying she's a lesbian then when she does say it, it will be news again.

                                And some people do care that she's a lesbian and disagree with the decision.
                                The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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