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  • #46
    Originally posted by gh
    <<6. Doesn't being gay stand against the natural order of things to procreate? And therefore opposes the sustenance of the familial infrastructure of mankind and consequently the species? Is it rational to support that? >>

    I'm a raging heterosexual (as is my wife). Neither of us have the slightest inclination towards procreation, as much as we enjoy practicing. Sorry, we don't have the breeder gene. I guess that means you wouldn't "support" us.

    Conversely, we have gay friends with a raging desire for children. And gays, just like heteros, practice adoption, surrogate parenthood, in vitro fertilzation, you name it.

    Gays are hardly opposed to procreation; they just don't like to do the same way you do. Ostracizing them for that is no different than so doing for race, color or creed.
    If gays are not opposed to procreation they have a funny way of showing it.

    The ONLY way to do it (procreate) is the way I do it (male/female).

    Gay is not a gender, race, a color or a creed. By their own description its a sexual "preference" which CLEARLY indicates CHOICE. Maybe heterosexuality isnt their preference, but then that is their choice.

    It's a an inordinate lust because its less common. Unlike heterosexuality it has no other benefit than gratification of a deviant (not derogatry, but meaning against the norm) nature.

    Like pedophilia or bestiality...its not given to majority inclination.

    Also, just because someone is inclined to do something doesnt mean that its a good idea.

    Like gossiping, overeating, lying, or an attraction to children. Whether you feel you are born that way or not...is that an excuse to give in to those desires?

    If so, why cant we (victims aside) be more understanding and compassionate toward pedophiles, for example? I mean they cant help it right? They were born that way like gay people....Right? Why do we expect them to control their desires if we say that it cant be done? Arent they victims of an inherent desire? Arent people who like to sleep with animals in the same boat?

    Much like necrophilia, pedophilia and bestiality....homosexuality has no social or procreative benefit beyond deviant gratification and therefore should categorized with them.

    It should not be categorized or compared with heterosexuality, which obviously has other innate benefits that support the sustenance of the species.
    The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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    • #47
      Sorry to hear your mind is still in the dark ages.

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      • #48
        If one more ignorant fucker compares gays to paedophiles one more time I swear I'm going to go postal. How dare you compare me to something like that??

        Trackdaddy, get it into your thick head that IT. IS. NOT. A. CHOICE!!! You think I would CHOOSE to be something that attracts this kind of bullshit day in day out????

        Whether you feel you are born that way or not...is that an excuse to give in to those desires?
        So consenting adults are supposed to stay celibate our whole lives, even though what we do doesn't harm anyone or anything except your delicate intolerant sensibilities? I don't think so.

        I'm ending this rant now to save my blood pressure.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by TrackDaddy
          If so, why cant we (victims aside) be more understanding and compassionate toward pedophiles, for example? I mean they cant help it right? They were born that way like gay people....Right? Why do we expect them to control their desires if we say that it cant be done? Arent they victims of an inherent desire? Arent people who like to sleep with animals in the same boat?

          Much like necrophilia, pedophilia and bestiality....homosexuality has no social or procreative benefit beyond deviant gratification and therefore should categorized with them.

          It should not be categorized or compared with heterosexuality, which obviously has other innate benefits that support the sustenance of the species.
          Pedophiles have VICTIMS, chicken-screwers have VICTIMS. Who are the VICTIMS in a homosexual relationship?

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          • #50
            I have a couple of questions for TrackDaddy. Just one question, really, the other one is an observation.

            If, as you claim, homosexuality is a choice, that means we all could choose it, right? So, would you blow a guy. No? I thought so.

            You have made a few insightful observations about history of discrimination against African-Americans. Yet, you seem to have no problem arguing for discrimination of immigrants that are not English speakers, or homosexuals in this debate. Don't even try an argument that it is not the same. Discrimination is discrimination.
            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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            • #51
              Originally posted by TrackDaddy
              It's a an inordinate lust
              it has no other benefit [than] gratification of a deviant nature.
              Like pedophilia or bestiality - gossiping, overeating, lying, or an attraction to children. . . . necrophilia, pedophilia and bestiality.
              That about sums it up! I'm convinced! :roll:

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Pego
                If, as you claim, homosexuality is a choice, that means we all could choose it, right? So, would you blow a guy. No? I thought so.
                I've got a pretty good memory, yet I can't remember the exact date I CHOSE to be a heterosexual. None of my gay friends seem to be able to remember the day they CHOSE to be a homosexual either.

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                • #53
                  TrackDaddy, you should not make absolute statements about issues you don't understand. Being gay is NOT a sexual preference. It is a sexual orientation. Nor is it a fetish! It doesn't stem from the same part of the psyche as fetishes do. I can speak with authority on this subject as both a gay man and a documentary filmmaker who has made one of the most in-depth documentary features on BDSM/kink/fetish in the past decade. I personally get offended when my sexual orientation is being reduced to a "preference" by ignorant straight people. If you are not gay, you can't understand it fully!! It is as much a part of me as my race or gender. I'm sure most black people feel that a white person can't understand what it is like to be black because they haven't had that experience. The same holds true for sexual orientation.

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