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  • #16
    Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

    Originally posted by dbirds
    Most were either Jewish or Christian unlike the current president and many of his people
    Nonsense.

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    • #17
      Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

      Modern Christianity? Either they believe in Jesus or not

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      • #18
        Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

        Originally posted by dbirds
        Modern Christianity? Either they believe in Jesus or not
        What do you mean by "believing in Jesus"?

        His existence?
        His teachings as told by strangers that did not know him anywhere between 40 and 150 years after his death?
        His resurrection described in three different ways in the Gospels?
        His divinity?

        All of the above has been debated by Christian theologians for centuries with hardly any consensus.
        "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
        by Thomas Henry Huxley

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        • #19
          Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

          All of the above. It's three views on the exact same thing. No one person is gonna tell
          The exact same story but none contradict the others.

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          • #20
            Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

            Originally posted by dbirds
            All of the above. It's three views on the exact same thing. No one person is gonna tell
            The exact same story but none contradict the others.
            Actually, they do, quite a bit. Re-read your New Testament.
            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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            • #21
              Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

              I do not think you can correlate/equate religion with politics. I do not believe religion should ever be introduced into politics. I do believe unacceptable behaviour, by cultural common sense, is pertinent.

              I am a fairly well behaved individual without being overtly religious. I suppose I am an an agnostic, afflicted by a fundamental Christian upbringing, the absolute veracity of which has been eroded by education and common sense.

              I do not criticize true believers of whatever religion, even if I personally believe some have some pretty kooky ideas. I believe the main benefit of religion is to induce a positive standard of behaviour in society. I do not doubt that it gives comfort to believers in traumatic circumstances. I applaud the charitable work of various religious organizations.

              Virtually all "religions" are essentially "cults", originating with a "prophet" by one name or another that share a common trait of a diety by one name or another, whether or not there is evidence of the existence of said diety. Religions evolve do/don't lists to prescribe human behavior, which becomes culturally distorted and misinterpreted. Religion has been the root cause of uncountable wars and unfathomable atrocites.

              And, it is a huge business providing employment for millions of people, either religous practicioners or providers of goods and services to religion.

              I feel I left something out but gotta go to a family July 4th thing.

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              • #22
                Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                A lot of Christians have brought a back name to Jesus by the way they live and act but Jesus was a great man, the son of God and the savior of mankind. Every "discrepancy"
                That you speak of can be explained if you really know the Bible and the content of that era. I'd encourage you to read it more thoroughly (as I continue to do), eternity in heaven is too important to miss!

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                • #23
                  Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                  Originally posted by dbirds
                  A lot of Christians have brought a back name to Jesus by the way they live and act but Jesus was a great man, the son of God and the savior of mankind. Every "discrepancy"
                  That you speak of can be explained if you really know the Bible and the content of that era. I'd encourage you to read it more thoroughly (as I continue to do), eternity in heaven is too important to miss!
                  I have read it, a lot more than you might think. The difference between us is that I also read biblical scholarship that examines it. Such scholarship has existed primarily only the last two centuries. Oh yes, if you want to debate the Bible with me, I stand at your service, but refrain from patronizing me with statements such as "read it more thoroughly." What is thorough means something entirely different to you than it does to me.
                  "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                  by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                  • #24
                    Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                    I think praying before reading helps one interpret it better. I have read other historical documents that support. Read something by lee strobel
                    Or ken ham, they have studied it much thoroughly than I have.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                      Originally posted by dbirds
                      I think praying before reading helps one interpret it better. I have read other historical documents that support. Read something by lee strobel
                      Or ken ham, they have studied it much thoroughly than I have.
                      I know plenty about Ken Ham and the entire creationist movement. It ignores everything that natural sciences learned.
                      "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                      by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                      • #26
                        Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                        You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?

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                        • #27
                          Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                          Originally posted by dbirds
                          You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?
                          We? Or the universe? The current estimate is 14 billion years for the universe.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                            Originally posted by Daisy
                            Originally posted by dbirds
                            You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?
                            We? Or the universe? The current estimate is 14 billion years for the universe.
                            ...and the Earth 4.5 billion.
                            "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                            by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                            • #29
                              Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                              Originally posted by Pego
                              Originally posted by Daisy
                              Originally posted by dbirds
                              You mean the one that says we are 20 billions years old?
                              We? Or the universe? The current estimate is 14 billion years for the universe.
                              ...and the Earth 4.5 billion.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Happy 4th! Political leanings of track people...

                                Those numbers are all bogus!

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