PED References

[dbirds]

I am still trying to understand why if someone has used PEDs or has strong accusations (and we have a source) that we can't mention it on the message boards. For example, if I say Udo Beyer's marks are not legit because he used PEDs (http://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid- ... 34766.html), I get either removed or suspended. I am not making stuff up or throwing out random accusations, these are referenced.

[tandfman]

Re: PED References

The accusations may be referenced, but AFAIK he's never admitted PED use, nor was he ever found guilty of a doping violation by any authority. The fact that a suspicion has made its way into print somewhere does not make it more than a suspicion. And the moderators here, wisely IMHO, have banned statements and innuendos based on suspicions, rather than established, proven, facts.

[Marlow]

Re: PED References

You don't want random people accusing you of something without ACTUAL PROOF of wrong-doing, do you?

[dbirds]

Re: PED References

The accusations may be referenced, but AFAIK he's never admitted PED use, nor was he ever found guilty of a doping violation by any authority

Did you read the source? He DID admit taking PEDs.

You don't want random people accusing you of something without ACTUAL PROOF of wrong-doing, do you?

By random, if sports officials, teammates or coaches say I cheated then that isn't so random. I wouldnt post idle speculation but pointing out that an athlete suspected me (like it sounds like Allyson Felix did about someone, prob Jeter, to Piers Morgan or if the German federation had files that say I cheated then I think that is serious enough to post (and document).

[Flumpy]

Re: PED References

But Garry doesn't so that's the end of it.

There are numerous people that I'm 100% certain are on drugs but until they are busted will not be stating such.

Once they are (And they usually are eventually) we can go to town.

[Marlow]

Re: PED References

Did you read the source? He DID admit taking PEDs.

If you cite that admission in your discussion, you will have no problems discussing him individually.

[tandfman]

Re: PED References

The accusations may be referenced, but AFAIK he's never admitted PED use, nor was he ever found guilty of a doping violation by any authority

Did you read the source? He DID admit taking PEDs.

No, an anonymous poster on a website I never heard of said he admitted it. There was a link to a newspaper article, which link could not be opened.

[gh]

Re: PED References

give it up birdman.

[dbirds]

Re: PED References

He did tandfman

GH, sorry I believe in fair play and hate to see athletes cheated by drug users! IMO Felix and Cantwell among other should have WRs if it wasn't for drug users. I feel the same way about Maris and Ruth in baseball. I don't see any legal issue bc other message boards allow it. Just looking for clarification.