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  • #61
    Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

    For a group of enlightened, liberated, tolerant, gentle-folk, there sure is a lot of hate directed towards people with religious/Christian (aka - other) views.

    According to everything I've been reading here we're benighted, dumb, ignorant...the very people your hearts usually bleed for the most.
    Hmmm... :twisted:
    You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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    • #62
      Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

      Originally posted by scottmitchell
      According to everything I've been reading here we're benighted, dumb, ignorant...
      Show me where. I must have missed those comments.
      "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
      by Thomas Henry Huxley

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      • #63
        Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

        Originally posted by Pego
        Originally posted by scottmitchell
        According to everything I've been reading here we're benighted, dumb, ignorant...
        Show me where. I must have missed those comments.
        "Here" being the board, over the years. It's a theme that runs through T&F News message board. We who come to the board allow it, because we love T&F and want to participate in discussions about T&F. And, I'll admit that T&F News is the most intelligent and thoughtful place to chat about Track and Field, but it comes with all the pitfalls that one usually finds in groups of above-average intelligence. You have to put up with people who've got all the answers to the cosmos and can't countenance ideas or beliefs that might be different.

        Anyhow...I'm just riding the spirit of the 4th of July weekend. The other 361-363 days a year around here I just try to shrug off the snarky or downright mean posts I don't like and move on.
        You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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        • #64
          Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

          Originally posted by scottmitchell74
          Originally posted by Pego
          Originally posted by scottmitchell
          According to everything I've been reading here we're benighted, dumb, ignorant...
          Show me where. I must have missed those comments.
          "Here" being the board, over the years. It's a theme that runs through T&F News message board. We who come to the board allow it, because we love T&F and want to participate in discussions about T&F. And, I'll admit that T&F News is the most intelligent and thoughtful place to chat about Track and Field, but it comes with all the pitfalls that one usually finds in groups of above-average intelligence. You have to put up with people who've got all the answers to the cosmos and can't countenance ideas or beliefs that might be different.

          Anyhow...I'm just riding the spirit of the 4th of July weekend. The other 361-363 days a year around here I just try to shrug off the snarky or downright mean posts I don't like and move on.
          No, I mean it, show me a specific instant. This is not the first time you claim that religious people are being insulted. This thread is a highly emotional issue, but even with clearly established demarcation between religious and non-religious, I am not aware of one post that would qualify the religious in the tone you mentioned.
          "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
          by Thomas Henry Huxley

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          • #65
            Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

            Just from this thread...

            I cannot understand how anyone with a brain can say they live their life using the bible as their guide.
            Needs no explanation...

            It's been my observation that Bible-thumpers are experts at "lawyering" the Bible in order to support their agendas.
            "Bible-thumpers" is widely held to be pejorative, in the same vein as "holy-roller" or "Jesus freak".
            You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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            • #66
              Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

              Originally posted by lonewolf
              :shock: I did not know Viagra was an insurance benefit..maybe they figured men on Medicare would never find out.
              For the record, I do not think employers should be required to cover Viagara either.

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              • #67
                Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                Originally posted by scottmitchell74
                Just from this thread...

                I cannot understand how anyone with a brain can say they live their life using the bible as their guide.
                Needs no explanation...

                [quote:3qbu3hys]It's been my observation that Bible-thumpers are experts at "lawyering" the Bible in order to support their agendas.
                "Bible-thumpers" is widely held to be pejorative, in the same vein as "holy-roller" or "Jesus freak".[/quote:3qbu3hys]

                There is nothing offensive about the first quote, we all can or cannot understand certain things. I am pretty sure, you would have problems understanding polytheistic or animistic religions, or non-religion.

                Yes, "Bible-thumpers" is pejorative (btw, the term was used by a practicing Catholic). So, you found one instance of anti-fundamentalist bias and immediately play a martyr?
                "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                • #68
                  Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                  You asked for one, I gave two. From one thread. It's a theme here, you know it, and you're being intellectually dishonest to deny it. It might be subtle and covert (and sometimes its very overt), but ask anyone who is being subtly and covertly disparaged, they still don't like it.

                  Confession - when I first came here I hated it, but couldn't keep away because of the track. Track was my drug. I hated the pompous, snobbish, elitist, and very anti-religious themes that ran through many threads here, but I dealt with it, and had Track Shark to fall back on. Then Track Shark went under, and things here softened, so I've stayed and made peace with what still does bother me at times. I generally like just about everyone who frequents this place, and over the years have gotten better at "agreeing to disagree". My favorite poster is Marlow, for Heaven's sake! If that doesn't paint me as open and tolerant to different thoughts and ideas, I don't know what does. :twisted: :wink:

                  However, this is the "Free-Speech Weekend" and I've seen some things in some threads that have rankled me, so I'm venting.

                  And by the way, I have no problem understanding other religions, I just don't agree with them or follow their guidelines.
                  You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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                  • #69
                    Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                    Originally posted by scottmitchell74
                    You asked for one, I gave two. From one thread. It's a theme here, you know it, and you're being intellectually dishonest to deny it. It might be subtle and covert (and sometimes its very overt), but ask anyone who is being subtly and covertly disparaged, they still don't like it.

                    ... but couldn't keep away because of the track. Track was my drug. I hated the pompous, snobbish, elitist, and very anti-religious themes that ran through many threads here,

                    However, this is the "Free-Speech Weekend" and I've seen some things in some threads that have rankled me, so I'm venting..
                    Very well said.

                    Im amazed at how the irreligious (here and everywhere) can have their profoundly held beliefs held together by no better biases, bigotries and preconceived notions as the most uneducated religious person . Scratch them, poke them with the truth and they pull the cord and explode like a wahabbi terrorist.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                      This will continue to be an issue as long as healthcare is primarily provided by employers. The ACA does little to help since it reinforces the idea of employers covering workers. Single payer would be a much better answer.

                      Health insurance is a socialist concept anyway! The older people i work with pay the same premiums that i do and probably take much more from the system. Im okay with this. I'll receive the benefits later in life and I like that my colleagues get healthcare, even (gasp) the younger women.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                        Originally posted by user4
                        Scratch them, poke them with the truth and they pull the cord and explode like a wahabbi terrorist.
                        Try me.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                          Originally posted by TN1965
                          So if your employer is a Jehovah's Witness, can you be denied the coverage for blood transfusion? Or if they are Scientologist, can you be denied the coverage for psychiatric care?

                          Why and how are those cases different from birth control?
                          The simple answer to that is that employers shouldn't be forced to provide health insurance to its employees at all.

                          Since you brought it up though, keeping its citizens alive is a compelling government interest.

                          From Wikipedia:

                          In the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, Congress states in its findings that a religiously neutral law can burden a religion just as much as one that was intended to interfere with religion; therefore the Act states that the “Government shall not substantially burden a person’s exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability.” The law provided an exception if two conditions are both met. First, the burden must be necessary for the “furtherance of a compelling government interest.” Under strict scrutiny, a government interest is compelling when it is more than routine and does more than simply improve government efficiency. A compelling interest relates directly with core constitutional issues. The second condition is that the rule must be the least restrictive way in which to further the government interest.
                          How does it further a compelling government interest to force employers to cover abortifacients and emergency contraceptives?

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                          • #73
                            Re: Hobby Lobby's new ad

                            Originally posted by Ned Ryerson
                            Originally posted by user4
                            Scratch them, poke them with the truth and they pull the cord and explode like a wahabbi terrorist.
                            Try me.
                            but why.

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