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  • What is the "H" in Jesus H. Christ for?

    Can somebody enlighten me as to the derivation and significance of the "H" in Jesus H. Christ?
    "Who's Kidding Who?"

  • #2
    Re: What is the

    some people say it is Hoobastank

    "There have been various theories, but the one that seems most plausible is that it comes from the Greek monogram for Jesus, IHS or IHC. This is formed from the first two letters plus the last letter of His name in Greek (the letters iota, eta, and sigma; in the second instance, the C is a Byzantine Greek form of sigma). The H is actually the capital letter form of eta, but churchgoers who were unfamiliar with Greek took it to be a Latin H.
    The oath does indeed seem to be American, first recorded in print at the end of the nineteenth century, although around 1910 Mark Twain wrote in his Autobiography that the expression had been in use about 1850 and was considered old even then. Its long survival must have a lot to do with its cadence, and the way that an especially strong emphasis can be placed on the H.
    Nineteenth-century Americans weren’t the first to take the Greek letters to be Latin ones—since medieval times the monogram has often been expanded into Latin phrases, such as Iesus Hominum Salvator, Jesus Saviour of Men, In Hoc Signo (vinces), in this sign (thou shalt conquer), and In Hac Salus, in this (cross) is salvation."

    from http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jes1.htm


    some more explanations here
    http://www.christianorigins.com/etymology.html
    http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_033
    http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... e=19960613

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    • #3
      Re: What is the

      Rufus,

      Thanks. You da man.
      "Who's Kidding Who?"

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      • #4
        Re: What is the

        Yes, thank you RC. This was most enlightening.
        "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
        by Thomas Henry Huxley

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        • #5
          Re: What is the

          Holy Toledo that sounds convincing!
          ... nothing really ever changes my friend, new lines for old, new lines for old.

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          • #6
            Re: What is the

            Don't concern yourself with the things of men, rather concern yourself with the things of God. There is no, Jesus H. Christ in the Bible.

            Jesus' name was given to Him, because He will save His people from their sins. And He is called the Christ, because He is the Messiah. Anything else is should be ignored.

            Neil

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            • #7
              Re: What is the

              John 17:3.
              If you're ever walking down the beach and you see a girl dressed in a bikini made out of seashells, and you pick her up and hold her to your ear, you can hear her scream.

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              • #8
                Re: What is the

                Isn't there a constitutional thing about seperation of church and T&F message boards?

                Where's the ACLU when you need them?
                There are no strings on me

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                • #9
                  Re: What is the

                  >John 17:3.<

                  I googled that and got more than I bargained for - talk about a Holy War.

                  http://www.carm.org/jw/John17_3.htm

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                  • #10
                    Re: What is the

                    I always favored the NASB....however in any version that verse is intense.
                    ... nothing really ever changes my friend, new lines for old, new lines for old.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What is the

                      >>John 17:3.<

                      I googled that and got more than I bargained for - talk about a
                      >Holy War.

                      http://www.carm.org/jw/John17_3.htm


                      Didn't you look it up before? I did:

                      http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/tfn/di ... age=195046

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                      • #12
                        Re: What is the

                        >Didn't you look it up before? I did:

                        I must have a blind spot for these things. I never noticed it before.

                        With regard to Holy war, I don't think that sort of thing happens. They just split and go their own way. Why do you think there are so many different Christian sects?

                        Forget that, i just remembered the sectarian clap trap in Scotland. Did you know each town has two soccer teams. One is protestant the other catholic (hearts v hibs; celtic v rangers; etc.)

                        Not to mention Cranmer, Latimer and Ridley.

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                        • #13
                          Re: What is the

                          >>With regard to Holy war, I don't think
                          >that sort of thing happens.<<

                          The Episcopalians (of all people!) are into a war of sorts right now over a gay bishop. Not a pretty sight. People heavily invested into a dogma can lose their bearings very rapidly when pushed into a corner.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What is the

                            >Episcopalians (of all people!) are into a war of sorts right now over a gay bishop.

                            But you know that eventually they'll just split into two groups. Same is happening with the Anglicans (or is that the same group?). The other one that will split everyone is the woman as priests. The catholics will be split when they allow priests to be married (but not with this pope). Life goes on and the number of sects gets larger. Eventually there will be millions of sects with a membership of less than ten.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What is the

                              i have just started my own religion, its based loosely on judaism, christianity hinduism buddhism taoism islam scientology and Jedism.
                              all you need to do is worship to empty beer bottles and donate 10% of your yearly earnings to me, its quite simple.

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