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  • PCness and the 'woke' culture are the products of natural consciousness-raising, i.e, trying to be better people and advance the meaning of civilization.
    People who can't handle that are the same who keep the specter of racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia alive.
    Some would have us believe that un-PC/un-woke is an attempt to be bluntly 'real', and if by real, you mean mired in the past, then . . . yup!

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    • Why do some people consider Pound to be controversial?


      Pound has made several controversial remarks in the past, but the most offensive might be when he called Native Americans “savages” when asked about the IOC affiliating with China and its politics ahead of the 2008 Summer Olympics. He was nearly forced to resign from the IOC due to these comments:
      We must not forget that 400 years ago, Canada was a land of savages, with scarcely 10,000 inhabitants of European descent, while in China, we’re talking about a 5,000-year-old civilization.

      https://www.sbnation.com/2020/3/24/2...ency-who-is-he

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      • back on topic please

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        • Originally posted by tandfman View Post
          Mrs. tandfman and I both got our first shots (Moderna) this evening.
          We are scheduled for this Thursday. We'll see . . .

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          • Originally posted by gh View Post
            back on topic please
            Fine with me...

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            • Originally posted by user4 View Post

              And it would also be a complete waste of resources for those populations to test because 99.9% of their population is not at risk of harm from the virus. Nigeria for instance has a median age of 18.. The last thing they need to worry about is covid.
              Manaus, Brazil is 94% under age 60 and 28% under age 15, and they have now been ravaged by COVID twice. While younger people fare better, out of control COVID in a young population will collapse the healthcare infrastructure and lead to a huge number of deaths.

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              • Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post

                Manaus, Brazil is 94% under age 60 and 28% under age 15, and they have now been ravaged by COVID twice. While younger people fare better, out of control COVID in a young population will collapse the healthcare infrastructure and lead to a huge number of deaths.
                Right....pretty silly to suggest otherwise...

                In the FT..

                Africa’s healthcare system at risk from second wave

                A growing coronavirus second wave is threatening to overwhelm fragile healthcare systems across Africa after months of relatively mild impact across the continent, officials warn.

                Authorities in Nigeria, Senegal, Sudan, South Africa and the Democratic Republic of Congo, as well as international organisations, say hospital capacity and oxygen supplies are running out as the continent-wide death rate this month surpassed the global average for the first time.

                “It is very severe,” John Nkengasong, head of the AU’s Africa Centres for Disease Control, said last week. He appealed to African leaders to subsidise masks because “for now [they] are the best vaccines that we have”.

                Chikwe Ihekweazu, head of the Nigeria Centre of Disease Control, warned that doctors would soon face “tough decisions” over who received treatment. “The biggest indicator that will put us under pressure is the number of deaths,” he said. “We must keep working to save as many people as we possibly can given the limitations that are clear in [African] health systems.”
                Last edited by Conor Dary; 01-18-2021, 12:32 AM.

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                • Meanwhile....

                  North Korea could become one of Biden’s biggest challenges — and not just because of its nukes

                  Vaccines are a long way off. South Korea, the most likely source, does not have them yet and isn’t likely to get any earlier than April. China has its own problems with the new virus variant, and its vaccine diplomacy is focused on Africa and Latin America.

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini....co/tTrmDttCuv

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                  • The Onion's latest on vaccines:

                    Headline- Nation Enters New Phase Of Vaccine Distribution Where Capricorns, Gymnasts, Childless Uncles Now Eligible For Inoculation

                    https://www.theonion.com/nation-ente...ign=2021-01-18

                    😊

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                    • meanwhile in Oz.....

                      72 tennis players being quarantined in Australia after coronavirus cases on flights


                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/4201425001/


                      <<Responding to reports that eight-time Australian Open champion Novak Djokovic had proposed a list of ideas to change the quarantine conditions for players, Andrews said: “People are free to provide lists of demands but the answer is no.”>>

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                      • Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post
                        Manaus, Brazil is 94% under age 60 and 28% under age 15, and they have now been ravaged by COVID twice. While younger people fare better, out of control COVID in a young population will collapse the healthcare infrastructure and lead to a huge number of deaths.
                        Ill wait for the data on that but every country has a different health care infrastructure profile. But take an honest look at the population distribution of Sudan or Nigeria..very near 80% of the population is under the age of 40...
                        https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ria-population
                        take a close look and you will see that more than 50% of the population is under the age of 20 (with a median age of 18 it mus be so). A more effective strategy in these areas is to focus resources on isolating the at risk populations the vast majority of which are over the age of 60 ( which is less than 5% of the population).

                        The other issue is that as we have seen forcing people into close quarters in lock downs has done nothing to stop the spread of the virus.
                        Here is Nebraska: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html
                        here is Colorado: https://www.google.com/search?channe...colorado+covid
                        and here is North Dakota: https://www.health.nd.gov/diseases-c...onavirus-cases

                        Besides shutting down economies, putting people out of work causes other kinds of social ills that have their own tolls, and those tolls can be deadly as well.
                        Last edited by user4; 01-18-2021, 06:23 PM.

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                        • China’s vaccine diplomacy appears to be not just about promoting its own vaccine, but also irresponsibly spreading scare stories about the (much more effective) Pfizer vaccine

                          https://mobile.twitter.com/gadyepste...64251654803460

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                          • Originally posted by gh View Post
                            meanwhile in Oz.....

                            72 tennis players being quarantined in Australia after coronavirus cases on flights


                            https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/4201425001/


                            <<Responding to reports that eight-time Australian Open champion Novak Djokovic had proposed a list of ideas to change the quarantine conditions for players, Andrews said: “People are free to provide lists of demands but the answer is no.”>>
                            Australian Open 2021: 'No special treatment' for tennis players in Melbourne

                            https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55702358

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                            • Originally posted by gh View Post
                              meanwhile in Oz.....

                              72 tennis players being quarantined in Australia after coronavirus cases on flights


                              https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed/4201425001/


                              <<Responding to reports that eight-time Australian Open champion Novak Djokovic had proposed a list of ideas to change the quarantine conditions for players, Andrews said: “People are free to provide lists of demands but the answer is no.”>>
                              I don't recall my mother having the last name of Andrews.

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                              • “People are free to provide lists of demands but the answer is no."

                                Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
                                I don't recall my mother having the last name of Andrews.
                                Ha! You were lucky. My mom always said, "We'll see," which took me many years to realize that was how she pronounced 'N-O'.

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