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  • Opinion: What anti-vaxxers sound like to me - CNN

    In October last year, I prepared my two-year-old son's lunch and dropped him off at our neighborhood pre-school. As a working mother, I was forced to decide between sending him to school, where he could socialize and learn, or keeping him at home while working a full-time job as a professor at a large public university.

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    • Covid numbers are going up in Lane County (Eugene) but rising faster in Oregon overall, so Lane County numbers not likely due to much if any Hayward field bump.



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      • Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
        Opinion: What anti-vaxxers sound like to me - CNN

        In October last year, I prepared my two-year-old son's lunch and dropped him off at our neighborhood pre-school. As a working mother, I was forced to decide between sending him to school, where he could socialize and learn, or keeping him at home while working a full-time job as a professor at a large public university.
        Here in lies the problem. First, there was a story on the local news regarding a woman in South Florida who refused to vaccinate because she was more fearful of the side affects than the virus itself....the single most common concern I personally hear. It is not micro chips or any of the other Q-Anon conspiracy theories. It's an issue, frankly, that I had to overcome as I am irrationally terrified of any injection. I did overcome it but still understand those who have the concern.

        Getting back to the woman in South Florida. You guessed it....she came down with the virus and spent in her words a week of hell in the hospital. She said she wished she had vaccinated herself.

        Back to the problem....this story will never show up in any medium that a good number of those who have not vaccinated themselves watch or read. Neither will the linked article about the child in the hospital. So while some media sources beat the virus and the vaccine to death in a prevention fashion, other media sources either ignore the vaccine aspect or present the vaccine aspect in a negative light.

        It's going to be very difficult to overcome.

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        • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post

          It's going to be very difficult to overcome.
          They will either get COVID and have a form of immunity or get COVID and die. It will be overcome because any unvaccinated person will get COVID.

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          • Originally posted by gh View Post
            took a long time, but I finally got touched by C19; extended family on my late wife's side. Husband and wife both turned up positive. He, a non-vaxxer, died 2 days after being in hospital. She was vaxxed, was discharged from hospital after treatment for kidney pain.
            So sorry to hear that. We spend a lot of time in here discussing the numbers and statistics, but what is often lost is that each of those cases/deaths was a person. And each of them left behind others who mourn their passing.

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            • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post

              Here in lies the problem. First, there was a story on the local news regarding a woman in South Florida who refused to vaccinate because she was more fearful of the side affects than the virus itself....the single most common concern I personally hear. It is not micro chips or any of the other Q-Anon conspiracy theories. It's an issue, frankly, that I had to overcome as I am irrationally terrified of any injection. I did overcome it but still understand those who have the concern.

              Getting back to the woman in South Florida. You guessed it....she came down with the virus and spent in her words a week of hell in the hospital. She said she wished she had vaccinated herself.

              Back to the problem....this story will never show up in any medium that a good number of those who have not vaccinated themselves watch or read. Neither will the linked article about the child in the hospital. So while some media sources beat the virus and the vaccine to death in a prevention fashion, other media sources either ignore the vaccine aspect or present the vaccine aspect in a negative light.

              It's going to be very difficult to overcome.
              I was surprised to see, this morning, that Sean Hannity (who has been a virus/vaccine skeptic for months) took time on his show last night to encourage people to get the vaccine. Hopefully, this is a start in reaching those who remain hesitant.

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              • Originally posted by bad hammy View Post
                Covid numbers are going up in Lane County (Eugene) but rising faster in Oregon overall, so Lane County numbers not likely due to much if any Hayward field bump.


                This pisses me off. If I were king all medical providers would be vaxxed!:


                In the past week, Lane County Public Health reported 152 more confirmed COVID-19 cases, nearly 20% of which came from an outbreak at Spruce Point Assisted Living and Memory Care in Florence.

                Initial rapid testing found that eight staff members and 20 residents are infected, according to an email the facility shared with residents' family members Monday. According to records from the Oregon Department of Human Services, the facility's memory care and assisted-living wings have 97 beds total.

                A news release from the facility said 87% of residents and 36% of staff are fully vaccinated. However, Jason Davis, spokesperson for Lane County Public Health, said when LCPH investigated the outbreak, facility staff said as few as 5% of staff were vaccinated.


                https://www.registerguard.com/story/...es/8029502002/

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                • Originally posted by bad hammy View Post
                  If I were king all medical providers would be vaxxed!
                  So moved and nominated. All in favor?
                  The 'ayes' have it by acclamation!
                  Long live the King!

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                  • Originally posted by bad hammy View Post
                    Covid numbers are going up in Lane County (Eugene) but rising faster in Oregon overall, so Lane County numbers not likely due to much if any Hayward field bump.


                    Keep in mind that any COVID cases in non-locals would not count for the local case numbers, but a lot of locals attended the Trials, if there was much spread there, it would have been picked up in the numbers.

                    I don't think there was much COVID spread at the Trials, especially among spectators. The stadium being so far below capacity really helped people spread out, and it was nearly impossible to buy tickets if you were unvaccinated. The system was not perfect on a lot of levels, but it was good enough to prevent the Trials from being a super spreader event.

                    Some of that was pure luck, the timing of the meet came at a low point in cases after spring's 4th wave, and before delta variant really took hold.

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                    • Back to wearing masks everywhere where there are people, with the exception of Breakfast with vaccinated buddies. The Grocery store is now 95% mask free, including workers. On the other hand every medical facility we go into is mask mandatory, but the question is: "Who's vaccinated." I know in Florida only 47% of workers in Nursing homes are vaccinated, and that absolutely makes me furious. If we aren't willing to mandate vaccinations for those who help and treat our most vulnerable then "freedom" is just another word for irresponsibility.

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                      • Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post

                        Keep in mind that any COVID cases in non-locals would not count for the local case numbers, but a lot of locals attended the Trials, if there was much spread there, it would have been picked up in the numbers.

                        I don't think there was much COVID spread at the Trials, especially among spectators. The stadium being so far below capacity really helped people spread out, and it was nearly impossible to buy tickets if you were unvaccinated. The system was not perfect on a lot of levels, but it was good enough to prevent the Trials from being a super spreader event.

                        Some of that was pure luck, the timing of the meet came at a low point in cases after spring's 4th wave, and before delta variant really took hold.
                        Yes I doubt the Trials were much of spreader...outdoors, small crowd. A large majority of the locals were vaccinated.

                        I didn't know it was that hard to get tickets if you weren't vaccinated. Good to hear.
                        Last edited by Conor Dary; 07-21-2021, 06:11 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                          I didn't know it was that hard to get tickets if you weren't vaccinated. Good to hear.
                          The emails that I received seemed to indicate that unvaccinated tickets were available only to the guests of athletes.

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                          • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                            The emails that I received seemed to indicate that unvaccinated tickets were available only to the guests of athletes.
                            I had friends who were a few days shy of two weeks from their second vaccine (and previously had COVID). We got a code from an athlete, but tickets for the unvaccinated sections never opened up during the meet even with the code, I think the athlete tickets for those sections were only really available for a short time or something. Eventually I was able to help them out, but through back channels, not the ticketing website.

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                            • Originally posted by polevaultpower View Post

                              I had friends who were a few days shy of two weeks from their second vaccine (and previously had COVID). We got a code from an athlete, but tickets for the unvaccinated sections never opened up during the meet even with the code, I think the athlete tickets for those sections were only really available for a short time or something. Eventually I was able to help them out, but through back channels, not the ticketing website.
                              I know a parent of an athlete who got 4 unvaccinated tickets for the second half of the Trials but she bought them immediately the day she received the code.
                              Last edited by jazzcyclist; 07-23-2021, 11:29 AM.

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                              • The surreal lives of Arkansas nurses fighting Covid-19 inside the hospital and denial on the outside - CNN

                                Sunny worked as a nurse on a Covid-19 floor of a hospital at the height of the pandemic. The work was hard, but what made it surreal was doing it while living in small town Arkansas, where many people, even some in her own family, said the virus was overblown -- "just the flu."

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