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  • I leave my mail in the mail box until Monday morning, that way all of the mail of the week has sat in the mailbox outside for an entire week. If that doesnt kill this virus we are all doomed ! Yes, I have a big mail box but it is mostly filled with junk mail.

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    • I wipe my mail with Clorox wipes.

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      • Are the liquor stores still open in your areas? They are open here in Houston. Somehow they are not considered non-essential.

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        • Originally posted by The Klingon View Post
          Are the liquor stores still open in your areas? They are open here in Houston. Somehow they are not considered non-essential.
          They're open here.

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          • I haven't heard of any place where they're not open.

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            • Originally posted by tandfman View Post
              The mail will still be there, but it will many days before I or anyone else touches it again.
              I'm with tandfman. Washing your hands with soap and water before and/or after any contacts is more important than anything else. People really transmit most effectively with prolonged close contact. Wearing gloves and masks need to be done properly and putting on and taking off without cross contamination is important too. Mass use of masks with lots of cross contamination isn't really going to do the trick. And all these disinfection rituals can get a little out of hand. I'm not putting my cat in the microwave before petting her (ok, that's an exaggeration, but I haven't googled it either, maybe its a thing). Just like cooking, or seeing patients in a clinic, or just about anything else. Wash your hands. When you go into the OR, you don't just put on gloves. You wash your hands extensively first. And you don't touch anything like your face or mask while in the OR. And you take your gloves off and dispose of them in a specific way and ..... wash your hands.

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              • Originally posted by tandfman View Post
                I haven't heard of any place where they're not open.
                Apparently no liquor stores open in Pennsylvania. Limited online sales available: https://www.lcb.pa.gov/Consumers/Pages/Coronavirus.aspx

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                • My Admin Manager went to the supermarket this morning. There were two lines. One for groceries, one for the liquor/booze section. She tells me that the liquor/booze line was much longer than the groceries.

                  What was even more disturbing was that the liquor/booze line was mostly brown, that is Maori (my relatives) and Pacific Islanders, while the grocery line was mostly Pakeha (Non Maori NZers of European descent). One of the reasons that Maori and PIs have such crap health statistics is not because of Pakeha but because of the crap lifestyle choices leading to massive obesity, diabetes, etc etc

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                  • Originally posted by schigh View Post

                    I'm with tandfman. Washing your hands with soap and water before and/or after any contacts is more important than anything else. People really transmit most effectively with prolonged close contact. Wearing gloves and masks need to be done properly and putting on and taking off without cross contamination is important too. Mass use of masks with lots of cross contamination isn't really going to do the trick. And all these disinfection rituals can get a little out of hand. I'm not putting my cat in the microwave before petting her (ok, that's an exaggeration, but I haven't googled it either, maybe its a thing). Just like cooking, or seeing patients in a clinic, or just about anything else. Wash your hands. When you go into the OR, you don't just put on gloves. You wash your hands extensively first. And you don't touch anything like your face or mask while in the OR. And you take your gloves off and dispose of them in a specific way and ..... wash your hands.
                    Schigh is exactly right. I also am not a fan of masks at this time. The literature is equivocal on their benefits. They may have some minor benefit if you're close to somebody but if you keep social distancing you're probably OK without them. Further, masks are limited at this time - they're not easy to get (unless you make you're own but those contaminate quickly) as disposable masks. The healthcare workers need them, since they can't social distance, so I will leave them for those on the front lines.

                    There is a science to taking gloves off the right way, as Schigh said, so you don't contaminate your hands while removing them and also keep any exposed surfaces inside for when you dispose of them.

                    With both gloves on, reach to the wrist part of one glove and slide it almost to the end of your fingers. Before you get if off all the way, reach over to the other wrist and slide that one off. Now slide the second glove inside the first one. Your hands will not touch any outer surfaces, and the outer, exposed surfaces are embedded on the inside of the gloves. You can then dispose of them safely Ideally that would be in a biohazard container but we don't have them in our houses.

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                    • In Pennsylvania, initially the state operated liquor stores were closed, while independent beer distributors were on the essential list and were open, and a small number of grocery stores that sell alcohol continued to do so. Then the state stores were opened to online shopping only, with a one order daily (Max 6 items) limit. Some people still claim that is not enough. One local nearby Ohio establishment has limited sales to the out of state shoppers as they were experiencing shortages due to bulk shopping.
                      Personally, I did have a glass of wine at our Zoom Seder last night, but all the fuss over this surprises me.

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                      • Speaking of wine, it's harvest season in the Southern Hemisphere, and wineries in Australia, NZ, South Africa, Argentina and Chile (all of which countries produce good wines that I've enjoyed both in those countries and back home) are having to deal with the effect of the pandemic on their operations. https://vinepair.com/articles/wine-h...ries-weigh-in/

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                        • Big day for me today. Went to the dump and then to the drugstore. Now back in the house for another 5 days or so. My wife is planning a trip to the grocery for Monday so she's looking forward to that. Me? I have nothing on the horizon.

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                          • Originally posted by bambam1729 View Post
                            Big day for me today. Went to the dump and then to the drugstore. Now back in the house for another 5 days or so. My wife is planning a trip to the grocery for Monday so she's looking forward to that. Me? I have nothing on the horizon.
                            My wife only goes out when we do our deli takeout to the park and 'picnic'. Can't find any beach-view parking lots.
                            My big outing is Tuesday at 7:00am, when the big local grocery has their 'senior hour'. They have a little of everything (TP!) after restocking the night before. We're all in masks and gloves, doing the disinfectant mambo on everything we touch. Definitely a scene out of a sci-fi movie.

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                            • Originally posted by Atticus View Post
                              My wife only goes out when we do our deli takeout to the park and 'picnic'. Can't find any beach-view parking lots. My big outing is Tuesday at 7:00am, when the big local grocery has their 'senior hour'. They have a little of everything (TP!) after restocking the night before. We're all in masks and gloves, doing the disinfectant mambo on everything we touch. Definitely a scene out of a sci-fi movie.
                              Funny, my brother sent me a picture of himself (selfie) walking through a big box store and he is wearing some kind of high tech face mask that looks like he is prepared for a lunar landing.. I just about laughed a lung out through my nose. Absolutely hilarious, but he was serious, he tells me he is prepared for everything. He makes me feel like a nose picking spring breaker!!!
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                              Last edited by user4; 04-13-2020, 04:23 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by Tuariki View Post

                                What was even more disturbing was that the liquor/booze line was mostly brown, that is Maori (my relatives) and Pacific Islanders,
                                Interesting.. In my youth in the 1930s-40s, although my family was 99% teetotaler, in a county on the Kiowa-Comanche reservation with a large Indian population, Indians had a demonstrated reputation for intolerance of firewater. I do not know if this is a genetic proclivity but some of us did not inherit it.

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