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  • Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
    I simply cannot conceive the mental machinations of anyone resisting the covid vaccination in the face of demonstrated
    dire consequences.
    Come to NZ Lonewolf and I'll introduce you to some of my demented tribal members who believe Bill Gates invented covid-19 to get richer and that Gates has hidden a microscopic Microsoft GPS tracking device in the vaccine.

    They also believe their own immune system will protect them better than the vaccine.

    You can't fix stupid.

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    • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
      With the size of some of the crowds at today's college football games, it will be interesting to see if there are any aftershocks of cases/hospitalizations/deaths over the next few weeks.
      My wife asked if these super-spreader events (107,000 in Michigan stadium) would result in closed campuses in 2 weeks.

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      • Originally posted by lonewolf View Post
        I simply cannot conceive the mental machinations of anyone resisting the covid vaccination in the face of demonstrated
        dire consequences.
        After a hurricane destroys an area there are always many people who say they wish they hadn't stayed. I understand in N.Y. and N.J. there were phone alerts about storm and danger to roads, yet traffic didn't seem to decrease much....until it had to.

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        • Originally posted by Tuariki View Post

          You can't fix stupid.
          Stupid usually dies from their own stupity.

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          • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
            We now will find out how well them thar vaccinations work as our 10 year old granddaughter has the virus including symptoms at this point of a fever of just above 100. She was with myself and especially my wife all weekend. To this point it's only caused some scheduling changes as I was driving my 88 year old in laws to a doctor's appt tomorrow and, even though everyone's been vaccinated, we thought it better to postpone for a week or so rather than take any unnecessary chances.
            So she went through a period of not eating much for nearly a week but her fever dissipated after a few days. She also had an ear infection at the same time which probably didn't help. Fairly lethargic for more than a week.

            The strangest thing to us was that, protocol for the county school system is to isolate or quarantine (don't show up at school) for 10 days. On the evening of the 9th day my daughter gave her a test and she came up positive still. The protocol doesn't mention a negative test to go back to school but my daughter kept my granddaughter home for the rest of the week. She's actually in the next room right now and seems herself.

            No one who came into contact with her, including my grandson (cousin of granddaughter), has had any issues.

            Me? In order to accompany my in-laws to their doctor appointment next week, I must supply a negative test.

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            • Originally posted by Atticus View Post
              My wife asked if these super-spreader events (107,000 in Michigan stadium) would result in closed campuses in 2 weeks.
              What I don't understand is how Big House had full capacity on the same weekend that the Detroit Jazz Festival was forced to go virtual for the second year in a row which is why I'm watching the livestream at home right now instead listening in person. I believe the state legislature has already stripped the governor of her COVID-19 protocols enforcement powers.

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              • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post
                What I don't understand is how Big House had full capacity on the same weekend that the Detroit Jazz Festival was forced to go virtual for the second year in a row which is why I'm watching the livestream at home right now instead listening in person. I believe the state legislature has already stripped the governor of her COVID-19 protocols enforcement powers.
                The decisions are arbitrary. No spectators at the Tokyo Olympics, but during the Games we all saw Japanese ML baseball games with stadiums up to half full, and sumo matches were still being conducted in front of spectators.

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                • Originally posted by bambam1729 View Post

                  The decisions are arbitrary. No spectators at the Tokyo Olympics, but during the Games we all saw Japanese ML baseball games with stadiums up to half full, and sumo matches were still being conducted in front of spectators.
                  They're not totally arbitrary; the decisions were made based on political calculations. Those baseball games had far less attention and political significance than the Olympics.

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                  • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                    They're not totally arbitrary; the decisions were made based on political calculations. Those baseball games had far less attention and political significance than the Olympics.
                    Definitely .....Having the Olympics didn't do any good for Suga who resigned last week.

                    Financial Times Tokyo correspondent....

                    Six challenges Suga leaves for Japan’s next prime minister



                    58 The number of medals won by Japan at the spectator-free Tokyo Olympics, 27 of them gold — a record total on which the country continues to build impressively at the Paralympics. Despite all that sporting success, Suga is leaving in part because, as a man never pictured cracking a smile at any of it, he could not convert that triumph into political fortune. He was grumpy, the nation was grumpy and the next prime minister must live with the fact that bread and circuses don’t work the way they did pre-Covid. Suga’s successor will also not be let off the question of why the LDP decided to risk the nation’s health for an estimated $25bn event whose brief glories are already faded.
                    Last edited by Conor Dary; 09-06-2021, 07:12 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by jeremyp View Post

                      After a hurricane destroys an area there are always many people who say they wish they hadn't stayed. I understand in N.Y. and N.J. there were phone alerts about storm and danger to roads, yet traffic didn't seem to decrease much....until it had to.
                      As usual, I think Ron White has one of the best takes on this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Fu-v490-c

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                      • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                        They're not totally arbitrary; the decisions were made based on political calculations. Those baseball games had far less attention and political significance than the Olympics.
                        Baseball games are politically important in a different way. They have powerful constituents (older men) who want spectators. The same reasons college football games have spectators.

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                        • Vietnamese man jailed for 5 years for spreading coronavirus (yahoo.com)

                          Vietnam jailed a man on Monday for five years for breaking strict COVID-19 quarantine rules and spreading the virus to others, state media reported.

                          Le Van Tri, 28, was convicted of "spreading dangerous infectious diseases" at a one-day trial at the People's Court of the southern province of Ca Mau, the state-run Vietnam News Agency (VNA) reported.

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                          • Get vaccinated or else: Colleges roll out new punishments for holdouts (yahoo.com)

                            After months of coaxing students with thousands of dollars in prizes — everything from gift cards to sports tickets and free parking — to get shots, colleges are starting to punish the unvaccinated.

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                            • Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
                              Get vaccinated or else: Colleges roll out new punishments for holdouts (yahoo.com)

                              After months of coaxing students with thousands of dollars in prizes — everything from gift cards to sports tickets and free parking — to get shots, colleges are starting to punish the unvaccinated.
                              New Zealand's 3 protectorate island countries Cook Islands, Niue and Tokelau have reached 96%, 97% and 99% covid-19 vaccination rates.

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                              • Originally posted by Tuariki View Post
                                New Zealand's 3 protectorate island countries Cook Islands, Niue and Tokelau have reached 96%, 97% and 99% covid-19 vaccination rates.
                                Which means they have probably vaccinated all of 96, 97, and 99 people on the three islands.

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