on coping with C19 lockdown

[jeremyp]

I was just told I was not authorized to update my own post? Any ideas?

[NotDutra5]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-transmission/
And if there is one thing we can definitively state, it’s that this virus is much, much less likely to spread outdoors than in. For example, in a study of 7,324 Chinese case reports, only two — part of the same transmission event — could be linked to outdoor settings. A database of more than 20,000 cases (including the 7,324 Chinese cases) found 461 that were associated with transmission in completely outdoor environments — predominantly crowded events like markets and rallies. Overall, only 6 percent of all the cases in that database were linked to events that were either totally or partially outdoors. The rest were tied to indoor events. That fact is actually why experts are concerned that fall and winter could lead to an increase in transmission — not because it’s colder, but because people are spending more time inside.

Good news for Florida where no-one sits outside at restaurants in the summer but do in the winter.

I'm really concerned for post Thanksgiving. Virtually everyone I've talked to about the subject, which includes those who have to this point been extremely cautious in how they've socially distanced, masked up, washed hands, etc, has been pretty defiant about going through with typical Thanksgiving festivities. Even in Florida, those celebrations are typically indoors.

[Atticus]

I was just told I was not authorized to update my own post? Any ideas?

Did the original say it was not yet approved? Sometimes, when you insert a link, it says, 'unapproved'.

[jeremyp]

Did the original say it was not yet approved? Sometimes, when you insert a link, it says, 'unapproved'.

I think what happened is I tried to post something already posted.I punched Save twice? Nope just tried that and nothing happened. Ah well!

[Conor Dary]

I'm really concerned for post Thanksgiving. Virtually everyone I've talked to about the subject, which includes those who have to this point been extremely cautious in how they've socially distanced, masked up, washed hands, etc, has been pretty defiant about going through with typical Thanksgiving festivities. Even in Florida, those celebrations are typically indoors.

HOLIDAY DURING #COVID19: When working out #thanksgiving plans,
@scottgottliebMD
says families need to "weigh their individual risk," warning the 2-3 months ahead are "probably going to be the hardest phase of the pandemic."

https://mobile.twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/1317850803307151361

[tandfman]

Headline - How to Tell If Socializing Indoors Is Safe

Sub-head - As the weather gets colder, many Americans have no idea whether hanging out with other people inside is risky. That’s a big problem.

One problem is that the facts needed to make an informed decision are often difficult to find--sometimes impossible.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...inside/616568/

[Conor Dary]

One problem is that the facts needed to make an informed decision are often difficult to find--sometimes impossible.

That is not at all surprising...

In Oregon it is pretty clear. Indoor gatherings are not wise.

[gh]

California has OKed attendance at pro football games (by a formula tied to various case-rate parameters), but Santa Clara County (think Silicon Valley) says no-go, so the 49ers will continue to play in an empty stadium.

[Conor Dary]

Iowa Never Locked Down. Its Economy Is Struggling Anyway.

President Trump has blamed Democratic officials’ rules for impeding the recovery. But even where restrictions are few, business is far from normal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/business/economy/economy-coronavirus-lockdown-iowa.html#click=https://t.co/nQnxDvFqz3

[TN1965]

I couldn't imagine shaking hands these days...

A total stranger, a kid about 12-13 year old, tried to give me a hi-five yesterday for no apparent reason. I was walking in a public park after finishing my run, and this boy, who was playing with several other kids in the park, approached to me and tried to give me a hi-five. I waived him off, but he kept chasing me and asked me why he could not give me a hi-five. I told him it was not safe to touch each other. He asked me why, so I answered him it was because of coronavirus. He looked totally stunned.

I don't know what to make of this. Has any adult ever told him it was not a good idea to touch a total stranger for no good reason during a pandemic?

[Conor Dary]

Meanwhile...

NY restaurant couple mistakenly served $2000 Mouton 1989 after ordering $18 Pinot


A young couple who ordered an $18 Pinot Noir at Balthazar in New York found themselves enjoying Mouton Rothschild 1989 listed at $2,000 following a mix-up, according to owner Keith McNally.

https://www.decanter.com/wine-news/new-york-restaurant-mistake-mouton-rothschild-1989-446051-446051/

[lonewolf]

Why would anyone pay $2000, or $18 for that matter, for a bottle of wine? That the imbibers could not tell the difference makes my point.

[J Rorick]

An $18 bottle of wine in NYC might be the same wine that would cost $3 in Eastern Oklahoma. About as cheap as you can get in NYC. If you don't like wine, any amount is too much. I do, but I would never even think of paying close to $2000 for a bottle.
A wine drinker who knows anything could tell the difference between the two bottles. Suspect this couple knew the difference, too, but were hoping to sample the great stuff on the restaurant's screwup.

[gh]

I'm trying to think if I've ever seen a wine list that had a $2000 bottle on it also had an $18 one.

[tandfman]

That would be a little unusual, wouldn't it.

Actually, the whole story seems a bit odd. For one thing, I don't think many restaurants would routinely decant an $18 dollar bottle of wine. Also, I was a bit surprised that a trendy restaurant in Manhattan would have a wine as cheap as $18 on the menu. So I looked at their wine menu, which is on their website. To be sure, the list says it was last updated March 11, 2020. A lot has changed since then--for a good part of the intervening period, restaurants in Manhattan were closed. But in any event, the cheapest red wine on the menu then was $45 and the most expensive was $6800. The Ch. Mouton Rothschild, which was the bottle mentioned in the article cited in the OP, was not on the list at all.

I'm not calling BS on the whole thing, but I have to wonder.