on coping with C19 lockdown

[tandfman]

Headline - Rapid Testing Is Less Accurate Than the Government Wants to Admit

https://www.propublica.org/article/rapid-testing-is-less-accurate-than-the-government-wants-to-admit

[bhall]

A gym trainer exposed 50 athletes to Covid-19, but no one else got sick because of a ventilation redesign

A Virginia gym owner thought she had a nightmare scenario on her hands when she learned that 50 athletes were potentially exposed to Covid-19 particles by one of the gym's coaches. But not a single member ended up contracting the virus, thanks to the extra safety precautions and ventilation measures she put in place.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/us/gym-ventilation-covid-trnd/index.html

[Atticus]

thanks to the extra safety precautions and ventilation measures she put in place.

Facts not in evidence. There could have been a lot of other reasons.

[gm]

The Total Lockdown that is coming, duh!

Yeah, right. We're not some backwater island nation.

[Atticus]

Yeah, right. We're not some backwater island nation.

Um . . . have we left lampoon mode?

[polevaultpower]

Facts not in evidence. There could have been a lot of other reasons.

Yeah it's a little tough to say when looking at individual scenarios. We know that some people are just not very contagious. And it is alarming that she let him keep coaching, despite his "allergies."

But broadly speaking, ventilation does make a huge difference. It is possible he was contagious and no one got it. Or if no one got it because he was not particularly contagious, her measures would have greatly reduced the number of infections had he been contagious.

[polevaultpower]

Very interesting view of vaccination priorities:

Headline -- Israeli expert’s plan to triple impact of 1st shots: Don’t vaccinate the elderly

Sub-headline - Immunizing superspreaders is the ‘only way’ to protect society with an initially limited supply of inoculations, says Israel Prize-winning physicist Shlomo Havlin

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-experts-plan-to-triple-impact-of-1st-shots-dont-vaccinate-the-elderly/

This makes sense if the vaccine is effective at completely preventing infection.

If the vaccine is good at preventing severe disease, but does a poor job of keeping someone from spreading to others, this will be a poor use of resources :/

[tandfman]

Paper goods once again tough to come by around here.

Not just around where you are.

Headline - Panic buying of toilet paper hits U.S. stores again with new pandemic restrictions

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/panic-buying-of-toilet-paper-hits-u-s-stores-again-with-new-pandemic-restrictions/ar-BB1bdun2

[J Rorick]

Most of the anti-believers probably think 9/11 was also a hoax and only vaguely recall details of WWII. The U.S. educational system at work.

[user4]

Two disturbing likelihoods - 1. In the next 2-3 weeks we'll pass the 2,977 deaths on 9/11 on a daily basis in the U.S. 2. In December the U.S. COVID-19 deaths will surpass the U.S. combat deaths from its four years fighting in WWII, 291,557.

True and yet it will never surpass the deaths from heart disease, or suicides.

[gh]

much of California goes into curfew mode today....


California is imposing a nighttime curfew starting Saturday as spiking COVID-19 cases threaten to swamp health care systems and the state's largest county warned that an even more drastic lockdown could be imminent.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-curfew-goes-into-effect-saturday-covid-19-cases-spike/

[Django]

True and yet it will never surpass the deaths from heart disease, or suicides.

How can you know that?

[user4]

How can you know that?

Because it has not yet by a long shot and history tells us that viruses run their course in human societies, and now with vaccines this one is doomed. It is as historically impressive as a virus as say TAB is as a soft drink. Furthermore, it never had the ability to take down the young and healthy as some viruses of the past did whereas suicide for hundreds of years and likely for hundreds of years in the future will continue to take the young and healthy at a pretty significant rate of +30k per year. That is a very impressive, intimidating phenomenon/illness.

[user4]

Most of the anti-believers probably think 9/11 was also a hoax and only vaguely recall details of WWII. The U.S. educational system at work.

It really is shocking to have a conversation with a young person today. What was common knowledge when I was a kid in the early 80s is a complete mystery to most kids today. On the other hand there is allot of stuff that we did not know about technology that kids today know like the back of their hand. Kids today can learn so much more on youtube than even those of us with encyclopedias could.

[18.99s]

Headline - Panic buying of toilet paper hits U.S. stores again with new pandemic restrictions

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pa...ns/ar-BB1bdun2

The Target a few miles from me was out of toilet paper, except for a couple packs of some 1-ply no-name brand. Fortunately the supermarket still had a few packs of decent 2-plys, and I was able to secure a 12-pack. If I waited until tomorrow it might be too late.