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  • 18.99s
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    Now the 6 children have to suffer because of their mother's ignorant decision.

    https://www.wdbj7.com/2022/01/20/mom...rth-6th-child/
    PASADENA, Texas (KTRK) - A Texas family is mourning the loss of a 27-year-old mother of six young children. She died after battling COVID-19 and pneumonia related to the virus.
    ...

    After New Year’s Day, the couple tested positive for COVID-19, and days later, Crystal Hernandez was admitted to the hospital. She was 24 weeks pregnant at the time.

    Rico Hernandez says he and his wife were not vaccinated due to their beliefs.

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  • lonewolf
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    Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
    [B] ] Danny had refused to get the shot, something his wife attributes to a long-standing distrust in government and a heavy diet of Fox News.[/I]
    I can't resist commenting. I don't have unwavering trust in our current government, have a heavy diet of Fox News, and am fully vaccinated. I do not recall ever hearing an anti-vax proponent on FN.

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  • KevinR
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    Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
    Life, death and 'hugs and prayers': A story of covid in rural Michigan

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/life-deat...231905488.html

    On a recent Saturday morning outside Munson Medical Center in Traverse City, Mich., Janice Burtch sat in a car holding a can of Diet Coke in one hand, a pack of Marlboros in the other. Snow was falling, the blacktop was wet, and she had just watched her husband of 29 years take his last breath.

    Unlike Janice, who was fully vaccinated and boosted, Danny had refused to get the shot, something his wife attributes to a long-standing distrust in government and a heavy diet of Fox News.
    What a horrifying story. And, sadly, it is not as uncommon as we would like.

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  • 1.609
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    Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

    The main problem with natural immunity is the inconsistency. The dose of the vaccine can be consistent and controlled, but the dose of the virus can't.
    Good point. And that study showing that 36% of people infected failed to develop a single antibody is the most damning piece of evidence against natural "immunity:.

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  • 18.99s
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    Originally posted by donley2 View Post
    I think the natural immunity thing is more nuanced than "its no good" or "its great'.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ural-immunity/
    The main problem with natural immunity is the inconsistency. The dose of the vaccine can be consistent and controlled, but the dose of the virus can't.

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  • TN1965
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    Life, death and 'hugs and prayers': A story of covid in rural Michigan

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/life-deat...231905488.html

    On a recent Saturday morning outside Munson Medical Center in Traverse City, Mich., Janice Burtch sat in a car holding a can of Diet Coke in one hand, a pack of Marlboros in the other. Snow was falling, the blacktop was wet, and she had just watched her husband of 29 years take his last breath.

    Unlike Janice, who was fully vaccinated and boosted, Danny had refused to get the shot, something his wife attributes to a long-standing distrust in government and a heavy diet of Fox News.

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  • 1.609
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    Originally posted by donley2 View Post
    I think the natural immunity thing is more nuanced than "its no good" or "its great'.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ural-immunity/
    "On the whole, studies found that the efficacy of infection-induced immunity was about the same as what you’d get from a two-dose mRNA vaccine, and sometimes higher."


    That's quite a statement. "On the whole" is a far cry from a whole lot of differing conclusions obtained within a time period of 2 or 3 months.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947a2.htm

    https://echo360.org/media/df6327b6-1...aedef8e/public

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7032e1_w
    Last edited by 1.609; 01-19-2022, 11:01 PM.

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  • donley2
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    I think the natural immunity thing is more nuanced than "its no good" or "its great'.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ural-immunity/

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  • 1.609
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    Originally posted by scottmitchell74 View Post

    What's wrong with natural immunity? That's stated is if it's something that doesn't exist or a bad word. It is a factor, is it not? What am I missing?
    It leaves much to be desired:

    https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/co...us-vaccination

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  • TN1965
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    Florida health official placed on leave after encouraging employees to get vaccinated

    https://news.yahoo.com/florida-healt...154957032.html

    Raul Pino, director of the Florida Department of Health in Orange County, sent an email to employees earlier this month that was critical of the agency's vaccination rate. Pino, a leading figure in the public response to the pandemic in the Orlando area, noted that only 77 of the 568 staffers had received booster shots and 219 employees had gotten two doses of coronavirus vaccines, according to WFTV, which first reported the story.

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  • 18.99s
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    Originally posted by jeremyp View Post

    How does getting covid give you a pass?
    Apparently they get a pass for having Covid and recovered within the past X months.

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  • scottmitchell74
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    Originally posted by jeremyp View Post

    How does getting covid give you a pass? Do these people still believe in Natural immunity? Human's best asset and worst is our brain. Garbage in, garbage out.
    What's wrong with natural immunity? That's stated is if it's something that doesn't exist or a bad word. It is a factor, is it not? What am I missing?

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  • jeremyp
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    Originally posted by TN1965 View Post
    Anti-vax Czech folk singer dies after deliberately catching Covid (msn.com)

    An anti-vax Czech folk singer has died after deliberately catching Covid to obtain a health pass to allow her to visit the sauna and theatre.

    Hana Horka, the vocalist for the band Asonance, died on Sunday after contracting the Delta variant at the age of 57, according to her son Jan Rek.
    How does getting covid give you a pass? Do these people still believe in Natural immunity? Human's best asset and worst is our brain. Garbage in, garbage out.
    Last edited by jeremyp; 01-19-2022, 05:44 PM.

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  • TN1965
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    Anti-vax Czech folk singer dies after deliberately catching Covid (msn.com)

    An anti-vax Czech folk singer has died after deliberately catching Covid to obtain a health pass to allow her to visit the sauna and theatre.

    Hana Horka, the vocalist for the band Asonance, died on Sunday after contracting the Delta variant at the age of 57, according to her son Jan Rek.

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  • jeremyp
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    The college junior would take six rapid tests before the holiday, all of which returned negative results. But it would become clear only later — after he had spent time with his grandmother — that he had been infected the whole time. Several days after gathering for Christmas, he got a positive result back from the first available lab-based PCR test he was able to book.

    The promise of at-home tests to tell people whether they are infectious has been undercut by preliminary data that suggests some of the rapid tests may be less sensitive to the now-dominant omicron variant. Studies suggest they detect infections most reliably two to five days after exposure in people with high viral loads who are experiencing symptoms, which is why people are urged to take the tests serially. But even then, they are not foolproof.

    The good news, researchers say, is that two newly authorized rapid tests coming to market as soon as this month work well in detecting omicron. The FDA issued emergency-use authorizations for the tests by Roche and Siemens Healthineers in late December.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...uracy-omicron/

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