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  • Interesting chart in today's Wall Street Journal about why it may not be unsafe to open schools: COVIDSchoolRisk.jpg

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    • Originally posted by bambam1729 View Post
      Interesting chart in today's Wall Street Journal about why it may not be unsafe to open schools: COVIDSchoolRisk.jpg
      Unless you're teachers, bus drivers, janitors and administrators are under age 15, we still have a problem . . .

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      • meanwhile, on the vaccine front.....

        Russia’s Race for Virus Vaccine Raises Concerns in the West




        https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pan...-concerns-west

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        • The Odds of Catching Covid on a Flight Are Slim

          Planes have not been the sites of superspreading events, at least so far.

          https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinio...mpression=true

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          • Meanwhile....a sad story...


            When Covid-19 Hit, Many Elderly Were Left to Die

            Warnings had piled up for years that nursing homes were vulnerable. The pandemic sent them to the back of the line for equipment and care.
            BRUSSELS — Shirley Doyen was exhausted. The Christalain nursing home, which she ran with her brother in an affluent neighborhood in Brussels, was buckling from Covid-19. Eight residents had died in three weeks. Some staff members had only gowns and goggles from Halloween doctor costumes for protection.

            Nor was help coming. Ms. Doyen had begged hospitals to collect her infected residents. They refused. Sometimes she was told to administer morphine and let death come. Once she was told to pray.
            Then, in the early morning of April 10, it all got worse.

            First, a resident died at 1:20 a.m. Three hours later, another died. At 5:30 a.m., still another. The night nurse had long since given up calling ambulances.

            Ms. Doyen arrived after dawn and discovered Addolorata Balducci, 89, in distress from Covid-19. Ms. Balducci’s son, Franco Pacchioli, demanded that paramedics be called and begged them to take his mother to the hospital. Instead, they gave her morphine.

            “Your mother will die,” the paramedics responded, Mr. Pacchioli recalled. “That’s it."

            The paramedics left. Eight hours later, Ms. Balducci died.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/w....co/odi8nzuCtJ

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            • THREAD: Covid caused 338,000 diagnosed infections in kids. 86 tragically died, thousands more hospitalized. To compare burden to flu, an estimated 11.3 million kids got symptomatic flu in 2018-19, 477 died. If Covid became as widespread in kids as flu, outcomes could be grim. 1/3

              https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottGott...16253449269249

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              • I’d Need Evidence Before I’d Get a Covid-19 Vaccine. It Doesn’t Exist Yet.

                Scientists need to show us the data. And that’s exactly what they’re working on.

                By Natalie Dean
                Dr. Dean is an assistant professor of biostatistics at the University of Florida.

                I’m a vaccine researcher, and even I would place myself in the “not sure” bucket. What we have right now is a collection of animal data, immune response data and safety data based on early trials and from similar vaccines for other diseases. The evidence that would convince me to get a Covid-19 vaccine, or to recommend that my loved ones get vaccinated, does not yet exist.

                That data can be generated by the large trials that are just beginning, known as Phase III or efficacy trials. Some have argued that we already have enough safety and immune response data to start vaccinating people now. But this would be a big mistake.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/o...gtype=Homepage

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                • Brazil August 8

                  Daily new cases 46,305
                  Total Cases 3,013,069

                  Daily new deaths 841
                  Total deaths 100,543
                  Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants

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                  • Originally posted by Halfmiler2 View Post

                    The Saturday (8/8/20) early afternoon numbers:

                    Worldwide: 19,425K(+1%) cases & 722K(+1%) deaths
                    The USA : 5,043K (+1%) cases & 163K (+1%) deaths
                    New York: 421K (+0%) cases & 32,761 (+0%) deaths
                    NYC only: 228K (+0%) cases & 16,320 (+0%) deaths
                    New Jersey: 184K(+0%) cases & 15,869(+0%) deaths
                    Bergen Co.: 20,751(+0%)cases & 2,038 (+0%) deaths

                    NY, NJ, and Bergen include confirmed snd probable deaths in total deaths. NYC includes only confirmed deaths.

                    NJ had 368 new cases and 9 new deaths.
                    NY had 703 new cases and 5 new deaths.
                    The Sunday (8/9/20) early afternoon numbers:

                    Worldwide:19,666K(+1%)cases & 728K(+1%) deaths
                    The USA : 5,088K(+1%) cases & 164K (+1%) deaths
                    New York: 421K(+0%)cases & 32,768 (+0%) deaths
                    NYC only: 228K (+0%) cases & 16,323 (+0%) deaths
                    New Jersey:185K(+0%)cases & 15,874(+0%) deaths
                    Bergen Co.:20,794(+0%)cases & 2,038(+0%) deaths

                    NJ had 378 new cases & 5 new confirmed deaths.
                    NY had 515 new cases & 12 new confirmed deaths.

                    NJ has 483 & NY has 548 COVID hospitalizations.

                    The Rt for NJ dropped again to 1.03 from the peak of 1.49 a week ago.
                    Last edited by Halfmiler2; 08-09-2020, 07:13 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                      Meanwhile....a sad story...


                      When Covid-19 Hit, Many Elderly Were Left to Die

                      Warnings had piled up for years that nursing homes were vulnerable. The pandemic sent them to the back of the line for equipment and care.
                      BRUSSELS — Shirley Doyen was exhausted. The Christalain nursing home, which she ran with her brother in an affluent neighborhood in Brussels, was buckling from Covid-19. Eight residents had died in three weeks. Some staff members had only gowns and goggles from Halloween doctor costumes for protection.

                      Nor was help coming. Ms. Doyen had begged hospitals to collect her infected residents. They refused. Sometimes she was told to administer morphine and let death come. Once she was told to pray.
                      Then, in the early morning of April 10, it all got worse.

                      First, a resident died at 1:20 a.m. Three hours later, another died. At 5:30 a.m., still another. The night nurse had long since given up calling ambulances.

                      Ms. Doyen arrived after dawn and discovered Addolorata Balducci, 89, in distress from Covid-19. Ms. Balducci’s son, Franco Pacchioli, demanded that paramedics be called and begged them to take his mother to the hospital. Instead, they gave her morphine.

                      “Your mother will die,” the paramedics responded, Mr. Pacchioli recalled. “That’s it."

                      The paramedics left. Eight hours later, Ms. Balducci died.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/w....co/odi8nzuCtJ
                      At the time of the report (June) 61% of Belgium's deaths were in Nursing homes. Our data (7/30) is 41%. Certainly a culling of the elderly. My sister died in a Nursing Home, and was never sent to a hospital.

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                      • Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post

                        It was bad....Dad who was 8 in 1918 talked about how amazing it was his family all survived in Galesburg, Illinois.
                        My dad was only 3 years old in 1918 but he was raised to always wash his hands and be germ conscious - which was good for a dentist.

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                        • Originally posted by TN1965 View Post

                          India has a higher seven-day moving average, and it's increasing. Mexico's curve is almost flat. Both are likely to pass 100k.
                          Yeah I think you're right about India. Will be 1000+ daily soon. Unfortunately the real numbers in India and Mexico are likely to be 2 or 3 times higher.

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                          • So far, both Sweden and the UK have had more deaths per capita than the US.
                            Last edited by jazzcyclist; 08-10-2020, 01:50 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post
                              So far, both Sweden and the UK have both had more deaths per capita than the US.
                              That doesn't make me feel any better about things . . . .

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                              • Originally posted by Halfmiler2 View Post

                                My dad was only 3 years old in 1918 but he was raised to always wash his hands and be germ conscious - which was good for a dentist.
                                Dad was also great on washing his hands. He also almost never had a cold or the flu.

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