the no-nonsense, nothing-but-the-facts-m'am C19 thread

[Dave]

I can't answer for hospitals but In my area of SW Florida I have only been asked 1x if I've been vaccinated. That's about 15-20 different Doctor's offices or medical facilities in a 1 year span. When I last visited a hospital in 6/21 I was not asked. I have never been asked for proof of vaccine.

I live in Portland, OR. I had to show my proof of vaccination and wear a mask to get into a movie. I’m very comfortable with that level of caution. There is a reason why our deaths per million and cases per million are toward the bottom of the list.

[NotDutra5]

I can't answer for hospitals but In my area of SW Florida I have only been asked 1x if I've been vaccinated. That's about 15-20 different Doctor's offices or medical facilities in a 1 year span. When I last visited a hospital in 6/21 I was not asked. I have never been asked for proof of vaccine.

I'm with both my 88 year old FIL and MIL when they go to the doctor and myself twice last year. In no case was being vaccinated brought up. Masks were required.

FL also.

[jeremyp]

Do most hospitals allow visitors who are unvaccinated? I can certainly see why they would not but I’m curious if they do?

I can't answer for hospitals but In my area of SW Florida I have only been asked 1x if I've been vaccinated. That's about 15-20 different Doctor's offices or medical facilities in a 1 year span. When I last visited a hospital in 6/21 I was not asked. I have never been asked for proof of vaccine.

[18.99s]

Do most hospitals allow visitors who are unvaccinated? I can certainly see why they would not but I’m curious if they do?

That probably depends on the state.

[Halfmiler2]

Weekly Update
The Monday (2/7/22) Afternoon Numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 394.872 Million cases & 5,736K deaths
The USA: 76.505 Million cases & 902.6K deaths
NY State: 4.840 Million cases & 53.8K deaths
NJ State: 1.843 Million cases & 29.050K deaths
Bergen Co: 186,252 cases & 3,020 deaths

Global numbers exclude China which has reported no deaths in almost 2 years. NY, NJ, & Bergen numbers only include confirmed numbers, not probable numbers.

NJ & NY detail:
The RT for NJ fell to 0.52.
The NY positivity rate is at 5.2%.
NJ has 1,910 & NY has 5,811 hospitalizations.
NJ has 6.5 million fully vaxed (77%).
NJ had 7.7 million 1st shots (91%).
NJ has 2.9 million boosters (51%).
NY has 15.7 million fully vaxed (81%).

7-Day Daily Averages:
Globally: 3,550K cases & 13.7K deaths
The USA: 315K cases & 2.75K deaths
NY State: 8,552 cases & 115 deaths
NJ State: 2,593 cases & 75 deaths
Bergen Co: 223 cases & 7 deaths

Weekly Update:
The St Valentine’s Day (2/14/22) afternoon numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 408.348 million cases & 5,798K deaths
The USA: 77.652 million cases & 928.4K deaths
NY State: 4.867 million cases & 54,174 deaths
NJ State: 1.855 million cases & 29,450 deaths
Bergen Co: 187,367 cases & 3,049 deaths

NJ & NY Detail: The NJ RT held at 0.52.
NJ had 4.65% & NY had 3.1% positivity rate.
NJ has 1,428 & NY had 3,524 hospitalizations.
Fully vaxed: NJ 79%, NY 81%, USA 61%.
1+ shots: NJ 90%
Boosters: NJ 53%

7-day daily averages:
Globally: 1,925K cases & 8.9K deaths
The USA: 160K cases & 2.3K deaths
NY State: 4,669 cases & 71 deaths
NJ State: 1,668 cases & 57 deaths
Bergen Co: 159 cases & 4 deaths

[Dave]

Do most hospitals allow visitors who are unvaccinated? I can certainly see why they would not but I’m curious if they do?

[Halfmiler2]

A good sign on Wednesday: the Rt (Replacement) rate in NJ fell under 1.0 to 0.92. The recent peak was 1.92 on 1/1. A number under 1.0 means that current patients are likely to pass on the virus to less than one new patient which means the trend is contracting.

Hospitalizations and new cases are also off their recent peaks.

And today, the Rt in New Jersey fell under 0.50 to 0.49.

[jeremyp]

They were infected long before Omicron. Maybe Omicron doesn't carry the same broad set of increased cardiovascular risks. And the vast majority back then weren't vaccinated yet.

Let's hope so. Still it's hundreds of thousands.(in America alone) It might be years before we see the real damage Covid has done to people's long term health. It also seems that long term covid may be causing similar brain damage as Dementia.

"Governments and health systems around the world should be prepared to deal with the likely significant contribution of the COVID-19 pandemic to a rise in the burden of cardiovascular diseases," the authors caution. "Because of the chronic nature of these conditions, they will likely have long-lasting consequences for patients and health systems and also have broad implications on economic productivity and life expectancy."

[18.99s]

The study found an increased risk of 20 different heart and vessel issues for those who’ve had the virus a year earlier, Science magazine reported.

They were infected long before Omicron. Maybe Omicron doesn't carry the same broad set of increased cardiovascular risks. And the vast majority back then weren't vaccinated yet.

[jeremyp]

Be afraid, be very afraid.

"Any infection with COVID-19—regardless of severity—seems to increase the risk of heart ailments for survivors, according to a new study that one researcher called "stunning."

The study found an increased risk of 20 different heart and vessel issues for those who’ve had the virus a year earlier, Science magazine reported.

"Governments and health systems around the world should be prepared to deal with the likely significant contribution of the COVID-19 pandemic to a rise in the burden of cardiovascular diseases," the paper read, according to the report.

Eric Topol, a cardiologist at Scripps Research, told the magazine that he was surprised by the findings and called the ailments "serious disorders."


"If anybody ever thought that COVID was like the flu this should be one of the most powerful data sets to point out it’s not," he said, referring to the study that ran in Nature Medicine earlier this week.

Reuters reported that the study found that those who recovered from the virus had about a 63% higher risk of having a heart attack and a 52% greater risk of stroke one year later. The news outlet also said those who recovered had a 72% higher risk of heart failure. The elevated risks seemed to impact everyone, regardless of sex, age or whether there were pre-existing conditions, the report said. The magazine pointed out that even those who were not hospitalized also had greater risk of cardiovascular disease.

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-19-seems-increase-risk-100225521.html

[bambam1729]

Its beginning to remind me of the great opening line from Hemingway's short story, In Another Country, "In the fall, the war was still there, but we did not go to it anymore."

[jeremyp]

It ain't over til it's over.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/08/omicron-deaths-covid/

"the seven-day average of deaths during the omicron surge has reached2,600 in recent days, climbing past the late September peak of about 2,000 average daily fatalities during the surge of the more dangerous delta variant, according to Post tracking. The ranks of hospitalized patients with covid-19 reached record highs in January. Coronavirus deaths lag hospitalizations.

The latest victims tend to be older, according to a Post review of federal data. Nearly half of the deaths in January 2022 were among those 75 and older, compared to about a third in September.

Florida has seen similar age trends, with seniors making up about 85 percent of deaths last winter, about 60 percent during the delta surge and back to about 80 percent in the omicron surge. He suspects factors include seniors who were recently vaccinated during the delta surge but did not get boosters ahead of omicron and higher raw numbers of seniors infected in the latest wave."

“You are flooding the system with so many patients that the crude number of deaths is going to be higher, but what we really focus on is the death rate,” said Robert Citronberg, Advocate Aurora Health’s executive medical director of infectious disease and prevention. He noted nearly all the latest deaths have been among the unvaccinated.

“There’s also a big group of patients who are politically motivated and don’t want to be told what to do,” Citronberg said. “They are willing to die from this disease because they don’t want to be told what to do, and it’s basically crazy.”

[Halfmiler2]

Weekly Update:
The Monday (1/31/22) afternoon numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 369.950 million cases & 5,646K deaths
The USA: 74.329 million cases & 883.4K deaths
NY State: 4.783 million cases & 52,961 deaths
NJ State: 1.826 million cases & 28,524 deaths
Bergen Co: 184,695 cases & 2,972 deaths

NJ & NY Detail:

The Rt for NJ fell to 0.55.
NJ has 2,926 & NY has 7,191 hospitalizations
NJ has 11.49% and NY has 6.6% positivity %.
NJ has 6.5 million fully vaxed (77%).
NJ has 7.54 million 1st shots (91%).
NJ has 2.74 million boosters (55%).
NY has 15.66 million fully vaxed (80.5%).


7-day Daily Average:
Globally: 2.975 million cases & 8.4K deaths
The USA: 0.523 million cases & 2.6K deaths
NY State: 12,304 cases & 139 deaths
NJ State: 4.9K cases & 90 deathsm
Bergen Co: 400 cases & 7 deaths

Weekly Update
The Monday (2/7/22) Afternoon Numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 394.872 Million cases & 5,736K deaths
The USA: 76.505 Million cases & 902.6K deaths
NY State: 4.840 Million cases & 53.8K deaths
NJ State: 1.843 Million cases & 29.050K deaths
Bergen Co: 186,252 cases & 3,020 deaths

Global numbers exclude China which has reported no deaths in almost 2 years. NY, NJ, & Bergen numbers only include confirmed numbers, not probable numbers.

NJ & NY detail:
The RT for NJ fell to 0.52.
The NY positivity rate is at 5.2%.
NJ has 1,910 & NY has 5,811 hospitalizations.
NJ has 6.5 million fully vaxed (77%).
NJ had 7.7 million 1st shots (91%).
NJ has 2.9 million boosters (51%).
NY has 15.7 million fully vaxed (81%).

7-Day Daily Averages:
Globally: 3,550K cases & 13.7K deaths
The USA: 315K cases & 2.75K deaths
NY State: 8,552 cases & 115 deaths
NJ State: 2,593 cases & 75 deaths
Bergen Co: 223 cases & 7 deaths

[1.609]

buried somewhere in here those numbers can probably be teased out:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/...64ec6c6db2007c

They're in 2 tables. The second table has a third category for boosted folks and includes the time period after the January 19 study. It removes much of the confusion from that study. The Jan 19 study never claimed that natural immunity was as good as vaccination. It showed that the arrival of Delta coincided with waning of vaccine induced immunity, and clearly stated that further study would be needed. It stated in the summary that vaccination was still the best course to prevent future illness and deaths. That's what this latest release addresses and makes clear.

I tried copying the column titles but doesn't work. Just look for Table 2 to see how these total and weekly numbers are labelled.

It's interesting how just over 10 days ago, people were ready to say "Maybe Novax was right....etc" and how quickly that evaporated. That's why the CDC pointed out the limitations in the first study, but the media typically ignores that.

October–November
Overall (age-standardized)	16,527	7.8	5,493	0.6	12.7 (11.6–13.8)	285	0.1	53.2 (37.5–75.4)
Age, yrs
18–49	2,094	1.0	124	0.0	27.6 (16.3–46.5)	5	0.0	NC***
50–64	4,427	7.3	659	0.4	21.0 (18.9–23.2)	38	0.2	38.0 (17.1–78.9)
≥65	10,006	33.4	4,710	3.1	11.0 (9.8–12.2)	242	0.5	61.4 (47.8–78.9)

[Halfmiler2]

Weekly Update:
The Monday (1/24/22) afternoon numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 349.019 million cases & 5,587K deaths
The USA: 70.668 million cases & 866.0 K deaths
NY State: 4.570 million cases & 50.9K deaths
NJ State: 1.792 million cases & 27,892 deaths
Bergen Co: 181,724 cases & 2,922 deaths

Global numbers exclude China which has not reported any deaths in almost 2 years. NY & NJ numbers include only confirmed and not probable numbers.

NJ & NY Details:
The Rt for NJ fell to 0.64.
NJ has 15.86% & NY has 10% positivity rates.
NJ fell to 4,093 & NY fell to 9,798 hospitalizations
NJ has 7.51 million first shots (87%).
NJ has 7.56 million full vaxes (76%).
NJ had 2.69 million boosters (54%).
NY has 15.6 million full vaxes (80%).
NJ has 30,799 & NY has 64.4K deaths including probables.

7-day Daily Averages:
Globally: 3.728 million cases & 10.1K deaths
The USA: 0.693 million cases & 2.3K deaths
NY State: 23,386 cases & 150 deaths
NJ State: 8,743 cases & 91.4 deaths
Bergen Co: 944 cases & 8.3 deaths

Weekly Update:
The Monday (1/31/22) afternoon numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 369.950 million cases & 5,646K deaths
The USA: 74.329 million cases & 883.4K deaths
NY State: 4.783 million cases & 52,961 deaths
NJ State: 1.826 million cases & 28,524 deaths
Bergen Co: 184,695 cases & 2,972 deaths

NJ & NY Detail:

The Rt for NJ fell to 0.55.
NJ has 2,926 & NY has 7,191 hospitalizations
NJ has 11.49% and NY has 6.6% positivity %.
NJ has 6.58 million fully vaxed (77%).
NJ has 7.54 million 1st shots (91%).
NJ has 2.74 million boosters (55%).
NY has 15.66 million fully vaxed (80.5%).


7-day Daily Average:
Globally: 2.975 million cases & 8.4K deaths
The USA: 0.523 million cases & 2.6K deaths
NY State: 12,304 cases & 139 deaths
NJ State: 4.9K cases & 90 deathsm
Bergen Co: 400 cases & 7 deaths