the no-nonsense, nothing-but-the-facts-m'am C19 thread

[scottmitchell74]

Thanks boss.

Am I reading this right:

≥65

10,006

33.4

4,710

3.1

11.0 (9.8–12.2)

242

0.5

61.4 (47.8–78.9)

My vaxxed but not boosted parents are 6x more likely to die if they get it, but still very unlikely to die. For someone who normally loves numbers and stats those CDC charts still make my head spin.

[jazzcyclist]

gh, did they have age breakdowns by chance?

That's important since unvaccinated people skew towards the younger segment of the population. What I think most folks on this board would be interested in is the different mortality rates for the 50 and over crowd.

[gh]

gh, did they have age breakdowns by chance?

buried somewhere in here those numbers can probably be teased out:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20220131&instance_id=51759&nl=the-morning&regi_id=101120217&segment_id=81212&te=1&user_id=461583dbf0c972a8ad64ec6c6db2007c

[scottmitchell74]

gh, did they have age breakdowns by chance?

[gh]

from the NY Times morning briefing:

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[SoCal45]

Well, shit like this doesn't help: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/w...accinated.html

[TN1965]

COVID hits one of the last uninfected places on the planet

https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-hits-one-last-uninfected-025228110.html

When the coronavirus began spreading around the world, the remote Pacific archipelago of Kiribati closed its borders, ensuring the disease didn't reach its shores for nearly two full years.

[KevinR]

Pulling for y'all, Tuariki. With that level of vaccination, I expect that the harshest effects of Omicron will be tolerable.

[Tuariki]

After 2 years of averaging 20 covid cases a day, New Zealand is bracing itself for the Omicron onslaught which is now out in the community.

The experts are predicting we will likely exceed 10,000 cases a day by end of February.

With more than 95% of eligible kiwis fully vaxed, hopefully we will still be able to keep our death rate low which has averaged 2 a month over the past 2 years.

[Halfmiler2]

Weekly Update:
The MLK Day (1/17/22) Afternoon Numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 319.934 million cases & 5,516K deaths
The USA: 65.815 million cases & 850.0K deaths
NY State: 4.570 million cases & 50.9K deaths
NJ State: 1.732 million cases & 27,252 deaths
Bergen Co: 175,114 cases & 2,864 deaths

NJ & NY Detail:
The Rt for NJ fell to 1.02 from the 1/1 peak of 1.92
NJ positivity rate fell to 24%. NY rate fell to 18.6%.
NJ hospitalizations fell to 5,307. NY rose to 12,207.
NJ has 6.5 million fully vaxed - 76%.
NJ has 7.5 million first shots - 87%.
NJ has 2.5 million boosters - 52%.
NY has 15.5 million vaxed - 79.6%.
NJ has 30,809 & NY has 62,891 deaths including probables.

7-Day Daily Averages:
Globally: 2.410 million cases & 5.9K deaths
The USA: 0.804 million cases & 1.9K deaths
NY State: 63,074 cases & 179 deaths
NJ State: 16,987 cases & 89.6 deaths
Bergen Co: 2,035 cases & 14.3 deaths

Weekly Update:
The Monday (1/24/22) afternoon numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 349.019 million cases & 5,587K deaths
The USA: 70.668 million cases & 866.0 K deaths
NY State: 4.698 million cases & 51,987 deaths
NJ State: 1.792 million cases & 27,892 deaths
Bergen Co: 181,724 cases & 2,922 deaths

Global numbers exclude China which has not reported any deaths in almost 2 years. NY & NJ numbers include only confirmed and not probable numbers.

NJ & NY Details:
The Rt for NJ fell to 0.64.
NJ has 15.86% & NY has 10% positivity rates.
NJ fell to 4,093 & NY fell to 9,798 hospitalizations
NJ has 7.51 million first shots (87%).
NJ has 7.56 million full vaxes (76%).
NJ had 2.69 million boosters (54%).
NY has 15.6 million full vaxes (80%).
NJ has 30,799 & NY has 64.4K deaths including probables.

7-day Daily Averages:
Globally: 3.728 million cases & 10.1K deaths
The USA: 0.693 million cases & 2.3K deaths
NY State: 23,386 cases & 150 deaths
NJ State: 8,743 cases & 91.4 deaths
Bergen Co: 944 cases & 8.3 deaths

[jeremyp]

A good sign on Wednesday: the Rt (Replacement) rate in NJ fell under 1.0 to 0.92. The recent peak was 1.92 on 1/1. A number under 1.0 means that current patients are likely to pass on the virus to less than one new patient which means the trend is contracting.

Hospitalizations and new cases are also off their recent peaks.

On the other hand NY had a death toll over 400, a huge spike (which may or may not have something to do with weekend data lag). 911 deaths in last 3 days.

[Halfmiler2]

A good sign on Wednesday: the Rt (Replacement) rate in NJ fell under 1.0 to 0.92. The recent peak was 1.92 on 1/1. A number under 1.0 means that current patients are likely to pass on the virus to less than one new patient which means the trend is contracting.

Hospitalizations and new cases are also off their recent peaks.

[Halfmiler2]

Weekly Update
The Monday (1/10/22) afternoon numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 303.066 million cases & 5,475K deaths
The USA: 60.185 million cases & 836.6K deaths
NY State: 4.191million cases & 49,620 deaths
NJ State: 1.613 million cases & 26,625 deaths
Bergen Co: 160,867 cases & 2,763 deaths

Global numbers exclude China which has reported no deaths in almost 2 years. NY, NJ, & Bergen above numbers include confirmed only, not probables.

NJ & NY Details:
The RT for NJ fell from 1.92 to 1.55
NJ positivity fell from 33.85% to 31.79%
NY positivity rose from 16.92% to 21.3%
NJ hospitalizations rose from 4,005 to 6,075
NY hospitalizations rose from 7,373 to 12,022
NJ had 21,691 new cases -13 days over 20K
NJ has 29,494 & NY has 61,859 deaths including probables.

7-day daily averages:
Globally: 1,532 K cases & 4,864 deaths
The USA: 718 K cases & 1,220 deaths
NY State: 74,584 cases & 82 deaths
NJ State: 27,914 cases & 45 deaths
Bergen Co: 2,626 cases & 0 deaths

Weekly Update:
The MLK Day (1/17/22) Afternoon Numbers:

Cumulative Numbers:
Globally: 319.934 million cases & 5,516K deaths
The USA: 65.815 million cases & 850.0K deaths
NY State: 4.570 million cases & 63.5K deaths
NJ State: 1.732 million cases & 27,252 deaths
Bergen Co: 175,114 cases & 2,864 deaths

NJ & NY Detail:
The Rt for NJ fell to 1.02 from the 1/1 peak of 1.92
NJ positivity rate fell to 24%. NY rate fell to 18.6%.
NJ hospitalizations fell to 5,307. NY rose to 12,207.
NJ has 6.5 million fully vaxed - 76%.
NJ has 7.5 million first shots - 87%.
NJ has 2.5 million boosters - 52%.
NY has 15.5 million vaxed - 79.6%.
NJ has 30,809 & NY has 62,891 deaths including probables.

7-Day Daily Averages:
Globally: 2.410 million cases & 5.9K deaths
The USA: 0.804 million cases & 1.9K deaths
NY State: 63,074 cases & 179 deaths
NJ State: 16,987 cases & 89.6 deaths
Bergen Co: 2,035 cases & 14.3 deaths

[1.609]

It 's possible that this may work to decrease clinical symptoms in humans, but this is a long way from showing that it does.

There are multiple metabolic processes going on in the body that are absent in vitro.

[bambam1729]

I got asked about this the other day. Its incredibly premature to say anything about it clinically. The study is a lab study - they studied cannabis on cultured human lung cells in a petri dish, basically. So there is no clinical correlation about if it works at all. Secondly, this is a pre-print, meaning it has not been peer reviewed or especially not accepted by a reputable journal after peer review. One of the problems with the internet is that there are now all these pre-print sites where people can post what they are submitting to journals so they are the "first" to publish on a certain topic. Our group of the major orthopaedic journal editors has made a policy decision that we do not want authors to post pre-prints before publication because of the risk of biasing the peer review process.

It 's possible that this may work to decrease clinical symptoms in humans, but this is a long way from showing that it does.