the no-nonsense, nothing-but-the-facts-m'am C19 thread

[guru]

They have to pause it for socio-political reasons, at least to get the word out about the blood clots, as that was not a known side effect when the vaccine distribution began (because they didn't have enough participants in the trials to reveal a 1-in-a-million occurrence).

It's almost certain that the blood clots have nothing to do with the vaccine, considering as gh noted all six cases fit the same general profile. Indeed, considering the incidence of that particular blood clot is 5 per 1 million if anything the odds are lower with the vaccine.

[Conor Dary]

Meanwhile...

World struggles to maintain vaccination drives amid mounting reports of side effects


Governments around the world are scrambling to sustain already slow-moving vaccination drives amid troublesome news of very rare but severe side effects from two of the most prominent vaccines developed to fight the pandemic.

Multiple countries had already restricted use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca shot after European regulators flagged the vaccine as having potential links to extremely rare but potentially fatal blood clots.

Now that U.S. federal authorities have recommended pausing administration of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine due to similar clots, and while regulators investigate, governments in Australia, Europe and South Africa are also halting the shot’s rollout or scrapping plans to purchase more doses.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ve-updates-us/

[Conor Dary]

The pause is to mainly prepare health care providers on what to look out for.

In a media briefing on Tuesday, FDA and CDC officials emphasized that the pause was largely to educate health care providers around the country on signs of these rare blood clots, as well as provide them with information about how to treat and report them.

Because again, if health care providers administer the standard treatment for blood clots to patients, the outcome of the treatments themselves could be fatal. Health officials want to ensure patients who present with low blood platelets or blood clots are asked about their recent vaccine history.

The pause itself is not expected to be long. Janet Woodcock, the acting commissioner of the FDA, said in the media briefing that the time frame of the pause will “depend on what we learn in the next few days. However, we expect it to be a matter of days for this pause.”


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/johns...375ab43cc65?jd

[donley2]

It's almost certain that the blood clots have nothing to do with the vaccine, considering as gh noted all six cases fit the same general profile. Indeed, considering the incidence of that particular blood clot is 5 per 1 million if anything the odds are lower with the vaccine.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/hea...ne/7201408002/

"The combination here — the real thing that is so notable here — is not just the cerebral venous sinus thrombosis or the thrombocytopenia," Marks said. "Those two things can occur. It's their occurrence together that makes a pattern, and that pattern is very, very similar to what was seen in Europe with another vaccine."

[guru]

"Pattern"? It's six out of over seven million LOL.

By the way, while we're at it why dont we attribute every case of cancer that arises in J&J patients to the vaccine.

[18.99s]

There's a case in Mississippi of a 43-year-old man getting a blood clot and stroke hours after receiving the J&J vaccine:

https://www.kplctv.com/2021/04/14/yo...ng-jj-vaccine/

[guru]

...the man’s symptoms and that timeline make it even less likely that his illness is vaccine-related, MSDH suggested today.

“It is important to note that strokes are not associated with this vaccine—instead, a rare clotting syndrome has been identified,” (MSDH Communications Director Liz) Sharlot said. “Further, adverse reactions have been cited between six and 13 days after the vaccine was administered. Of the six noted cases, all are women between the age of 18 and 38.”

https://www.mississippifreepress.org...oke-msdh-says/

[Conor Dary]

Western Warnings Tarnish Covid Vaccines the World Badly Needs


Amid a deep residue of mistrust, American and European cautions on the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines risk igniting anti-vaccine fervor in countries that can’t afford to be particular.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/w...hesitancy.html

[jeremyp]

The world will be passing the 3 million deaths mark in the next few hours. That's the official count. The real one? We'll never know.

[Halfmiler2]

There may have been 3 million in China alone. They ordered 2 million urns to Wuhan for cremated ashes early in 2020.

[Conor Dary]

Not going well in India...

[Conor Dary]

[Halfmiler2]

How about a chart for reported deaths? It would be a lot flatter.

[Conor Dary]

Why not! Not terribly flat I'm afraid to say...

[Adam$]

Police in Ontario will now have the power to stop drivers or pedestrians and ask for their address and reason for being out. Residents could face fines of up to $C750 (US$600) for refusing to comply. Checkpoints will be established on provincial borders with Manitoba and Quebec to stop non-essential travel – but not on the frontier with the US.Guardian