the no-nonsense, nothing-but-the-facts-m'am C19 thread

[Halfmiler2]

Then there is this:

https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-tops-country-for-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths-report

Florida tops country for COVID-19 nursing home deaths: report

The report does not say but it must be for only a month because the number is small compared to the NJ cumulative number for nursing homes which is at 8.5K. And NY is even higher.

[gh]

meanwhile in vaccine-land....
The Differences Between the Moderna and Pfizer Vaccines Are Starting to Matter

https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/pfizer-moderna-mrna-vaccine-differences.html

[NotDutra5]

The report does not say but it must be for only a month because the number is small compared to the NJ cumulative number for nursing homes which is at 8.5K. And NY is even higher.

Florida was over 11,000 in the middle of June. NY is higher than that. Neither are good which was more my point and FL is currently worse.

[Halfmiler2]

Florida was over 11,000 in the middle of June. NY is higher than that. Neither are good which was more my point and FL is currently worse.

Florida has a population about 2.2 times the size of NJ. It would have to have about 18.5K nursing home deaths to be equivalent to the 8.5K that NJ has had.

[Halfmiler2]

meanwhile in vaccine-land....
The Differences Between the Moderna and Pfizer Vaccines Are Starting to Matter

https://slate.com/technology/2021/09...fferences.html

I did see a warning somewhere to only get a booster of the same kind as the original shots.

[jeremyp]

I am thankful my 94-year old aunt retired from NJ to Florida and is in a nursing home down there. Florida has had a good record in the nursing homes.

You might want to check out this site

https://www.aarp.org/ppi/issues/caregiving/info-2020/nursing-home-covid-dashboard.html

Florida nursing homes are caring for more than 60,000 people, N.J 40,000.

Only Louisiana has a lower vaccination rate per staff

.36 per 100 residents death rate in Fl Highest in country.

.02 in N.J.00 residents death rate

Florida 5.3 cases per 100 residents. Highest in country

[gm]

Female friend (40) had a pretty bad reaction to her first Moderna shot, now has hives over most of her body. Apparently this is not rare.

[NotDutra5]

Florida has a population about 2.2 times the size of NJ. It would have to have about 18.5K nursing home deaths to be equivalent to the 8.5K that NJ has had.

I'd argue that both NY and NJ had to deal with the pandemic early when things were out of control while Florida had plenty of time to review the situation and make plans accordingly for dealing with the virus in facilities....which continues through today. It isn't pure numbers. I don't think there is much of an argument for an opinion of the state doing a good job or even a better job than what went on and goes on in the NYC area.

[jeremyp]

Female friend (40) had a pretty bad reaction to her first Moderna shot, now has hives over most of her body. Apparently this is not rare.

My daughter had a moderna shot and slept for 12 straight hours.

[TN1965]

Nowhere left for Covid to go to mutate into a deadly variant, says Oxford vaccine creator

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nowhere-left-covid-mutate-deadly-175101965.html

Covid is unlikely to mutate into a much deadlier variant because there “aren’t many places for the virus to go”, the lead scientist behind the Oxford vaccine has said.

[gh]

meanwhile, in optimism-world...

COVID-19 virus likely to get weaker and become a common cold, says Oxford-AstraZeneca vax creator

https://www.businessinsider.in/science/health/news/covid-19-virus-likely-to-get-weaker-and-become-a-common-cold-says-oxford-astrazeneca-vax-creator/articleshow/86456862.cms

[TN1965]

The US, UK, and Israel have all fallen far behind in the global vaccination race - the US now ranks 39th (yahoo.com)

It's been nearly nine months to the day since the US's first COVID-19 vaccines went into arms.

Over the winter, the US, Israel, and the UK boasted the highest vaccination rates in the world. But all three have all fallen far behind in the global vaccination race since then.

[scottmitchell74]

The UK and especially the US have huge, heterogeneous populations. Getting everyone on board will be harder than your more homogeneous populations.

[Conor Dary]

The UK is at 65% and the US is at 55% heterogeneous populations isn't the problem in the US.

[Halfmiler2]

I'd argue that both NY and NJ had to deal with the pandemic early when things were out of control while Florida had plenty of time to review the situation and make plans accordingly for dealing with the virus in facilities....which continues through today. It isn't pure numbers. I don't think there is much of an argument for an opinion of the state doing a good job or even a better job than what went on and goes on in the NYC area.

As I said in my earlier post, I fear my 94-year old aunt would not be with us anymore if she had been in a nursing home in NJ last year instead of Florida. And my cousin says they instituted tight restrictions in the Florida nursing homes right away.