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  • In NJ, African-Americans are about 14% of the population but were at about 20% of the early coronavirus deaths although that has now dropped to about 18%. This has been a concern mentioned at almost every press conference.

    Interestingly, Hispanics in New Jersey have a higher case rate but a lower death rate. They statistically are better survivors of the virus. I have not seen an explanation.
    Last edited by Halfmiler2; 05-21-2020, 02:49 AM.


    • Originally posted by Halfmiler2 View Post
      Interestingly, Hispanics in New Jersey have a higher case rate but a lower death rate. They statistically are better survivors of the virus. I have not seen an explanation.
      In Sonoma County (Northern Cal), Hispanics account for 64% of the positives (30% for whites), but all the (still only 4) deaths are age 65+ white males, one from the Grand Princess cruise ship. The 50-64 age group accounts for 20% of positives, and the +65 for only 12%.


      • Latest data lapse inflated Georgia’s virus test count by 57,000

        State health chief: ‘It’s not really an error. It’s a way it was collected.’

        After facing weeks of criticism for not being transparent with data about the coronavirus, state officials on Wednesday acknowledged that a test type that does not measure active cases inflated published test counts by 57,000, or roughly 14% of total tests to date.

        For weeks now, the Department of Public Health has included antibody tests, which can detect if someone once had the coronavirus, with diagnostic tests that measure active infection in its total tally of about 403,000 tests.


        • "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has always warned that “it may be possible” to become infected with coronavirus by touching contaminated surfaces or objects.
          It just “does not spread easily” in that manner, the agency now says, nor by animal-to-human contact, or vice versa.
          “COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads,” says the CDC’s recently updated guidelines. “It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads.”
          Dr. John Whyte, chief medical officer for the healthcare website WebMD, told Fox News that the CDC’s slight update brings clarity and helps to reduce fears.
          “Many people were concerned that by simply touching an object they may get coronavirus and that’s simply not the case. Even when a virus may stay on a surface, it doesn’t mean that it’s actually infectious,” Whyte was quoted.
          “I think this new guideline helps people understand more about what does and doesn’t increase risk. It doesn’t mean we stop washing hands and disinfecting surfaces. But it does allow us to be practical and realistic as we try to return to a sense of normalcy,” he said."

          Last edited by jeremyp; 05-21-2020, 03:18 PM.


          • Finally Bi Partisanship!
            "On the first day of the Illinois General Assembly’s special pandemic session, in a makeshift chamber in the Bank of Springfield Center, the first order of business was to vote that everyone must wear a mask — a rule that passed overwhelmingly with bipartisan support.
            But there was one Republican holdout on Wednesday: state Rep. Darren Bailey, who sat smiling at his desk on the floor of the arena and refused to put one on.

            His colleagues on both sides of the aisle didn’t appear too worried. They kicked him out of the legislature by an 81-27 vote."



            • Sweden tops Europe COVID-19 deaths per capita over last seven days



              • Young adults are also affected by Kawasaki-like disease linked to coronavirus, doctors say



                • After Multiple Deaths, Officials Call for No Masks in Gym Class



                  • What? Maybe this was part of the problem..

                    To help students get back into shape, a middle school in the eastern Jiangsu province has started requiring students to run for at least 100 minutes per day.


                    • Meanwhile...

                      ‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’

                      The government’s disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.



                      • Alabama...

                        "Right now, if you are from Montgomery and you need an ICU bed, you are in trouble. If you're from central Alabama, and you need an ICU bed, you may not be able to get one," Montgomery Mayor Steven Reed says. "Our health care system has been maxed out."



                        • Michigan....C19, like nature, abhors a vacuum....

                          Reopening day: Northern Michigan restaurants expect surge, as hotels fill fast

                          Typically, a surge in tourism and spending is viewed as a win-win situation. But during the pandemic, the idea of a flood of customers is spurring a tone of tempered optimism for business owners.

                          The Upper Peninsula and a handful of northern Lower Peninsula counties are allowed to reopen first because of the low prevalence of the coronavirus.

                          But now, people from southeast Michigan – the epicenter of Michigan’s outbreak – are planning trips to cottages and hotels to mingle for the long weekend. Locals are nervous about tourists flocking up north, Trefney said.

                          Last edited by Conor Dary; 05-21-2020, 05:50 PM.


                          • Originally posted by Halfmiler2 View Post

                            The Wednesday (5/20/20) early afternoon numbers:

                            Worldwide: 4,929K (+2%) cases & 324K (+2%) deaths
                            The USA : 1,531K (+1%)cases & 92,066(+2%) deaths
                            New York: 358K (+1%) cases & 22,976 (+1%) deaths
                            NYC Only: 199K (+1%) cases & 20,887 (+0%) deaths
                            New Jersey: 150K (+1%) cases & 10,747(+1%) deaths
                            Bergen Co.: 17,518(+0%)cases & 1,500 (+2%) deaths

                            NYC numbers include probable as well as confirmed deaths.

                            NJ announced that doctors and dentists can have in-person non-emergency office visits by patients after Memorial Day.

                            The Thursday (5/21/20) early afternoon numbers:

                            Worldwide: 4,859K (+0%) cases & 329K (+2%) deaths
                            The USA : 1,557K (+2%) cases & 93,606(+2%) deaths
                            New York : 359K (+0%) cases & 23,083 (+1%) deaths
                            NYC Only: 199K (+0%) cases & 20,934 (+0%) deaths
                            New Jersey: 151K(+1%)cases & 10,843 (+1%) deaths
                            Bergen Co.:17,583(+0%)cases & 1,508 (+1%) deaths

                            NYC numbers include probable as well as confirmed coronavirus deaths.

                            Worldwide cases were revised slightly downward but still expected to hit 5 million later today.

                            NJ had fewer than 100 new daily deaths and that number was not affected by weekend skewing.


                            • Meanwhile.....back in Michigan....

                              Coronavirus Deaths Were Likely Missed in Michigan, Death Certificates Suggest

                              Analysis in the hard-hit state underscores broader challenges of assessing virus’s toll

                              Fresh data from Michigan, one of the states hardest hit by the new coronavirus, show that a testing shortfall there is likely fueling a substantial undercount of deaths attributed to Covid-19 and points to the broader challenge of tracking deaths from the disease nationwide.

                              An exclusive Wall Street Journal analysis of death certificates indicates that Michigan could have undercounted hundreds of fatalities connected to Covid-19 during a period in March and April when deaths had surged above normal levels.



                              • Some good news which got some significant local press here: the NFHS guidelines (about reopening high school sports) classified running, swimming, and golf as low risk sports, while football, wrestling, and lacrosse as high risk sports.
                                Last edited by Halfmiler2; 05-21-2020, 10:31 PM.