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  • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post
    However, if you are one of the 5% of vaccinated people who do get infected, Japan isn't going to let you in the country despite the fact that you have no symptoms and you can't infect anyone.
    Vaccinated people who get infected can transmit the virus.

    https://www.wsfa.com/2021/05/19/can-...-spread-virus/
    UAB’s Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Michael Saag says fully vaccinated people can become infected asymptotically or with minimal symptoms and still spread COVID-19 to others.

    Saag says the situation with the New York Yankees is a good example of where a handful of players who got vaccinated still spread it to others. However, the vaccine does keep people from developing severe illness and ending up in the hospital.
    Even if such transmission were impossible, Japan has no reliable way of verifying who has been vaccinated. There is no database they can check, nor forgery-resistant vaccine IDs, so they have to rely on testing.

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    • https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...hk-2021-05-19/
      Japan health panel approves Moderna, AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines

      Supplies of the Moderna doses have already been imported and are planned for use at mass vaccination centres in Tokyo and Osaka from next week.

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      • FOCUS: Opposition to Tokyo Olympics grows in Japan with just 2 months to go

        https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...ths-to-go.html

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        • Opposition to the Tokyo Olympics is intensifying in Japan

          https://www.economist.com/asia/2021/...fying-in-japan

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          • Report: Tokyo Doctors Urge Cancelation of 2021 Olympics Due to COVID-19

            https://www.si.com/olympics/2021/05/...mpics-covid-19

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            • https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...vaccines-tokyo
              Panam Sports has secured 6,000 coronavirus vaccines for athletes and officials travelling to the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and the Cali 2021 Junior Pan American Games.

              Four thousand Johnson & Johnson vaccines were secured thanks to an agreement with the University of Miami and the Mexican Consulate, with a further 2,000 coming due to a partnership with the City of Houston and the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee.

              Every National Olympic Committee (NOC) in the Panam Sports region has been contacted about the chance for vaccinations and the continental body will even cover the cost of flights to Miami or Houston.

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              • Maybe density and hospital capacity are important factors too, but if I am reading the tables right, Japan's current weekly case rate per 100,000 is less than half that of the U.S.

                So there may be a current spike, but relatively speaking, is Japan considered a hot-spot?

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                • Originally posted by wamego relays champ View Post
                  Maybe density and hospital capacity are important factors too, but if I am reading the tables right, Japan's current weekly case rate per 100,000 is less than half that of the U.S.

                  So there may be a current spike, but relatively speaking, is Japan considered a hot-spot?
                  Relatively speaking, everything is relative!

                  The US daily cases are 90% below the peak in January, so people are believing and acting like the pandemic is about to end. Whereas the daily cases in Japan have risen to match their January peak (but still far less than the current US numbers), and they are believing and acting like the world is about to end.

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                  • What I realized during the pandemic is that I was one of the more risk-averse people in my extended family and at most 10% of them were as careful as I was when it came to COVID-19 protocols. On the other hand, I was about average among the people in the department I work in. I suspect I would be below average if I lived in Japan or some other east Asian country.

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                    • Japan adds Okinawa to COVID-19 state of emergency, eyes extension

                      https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...emergency.html

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                      • Most Japan firms say Olympics should be cancelled or postponed, poll shows

                        https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sp...or-2021-05-20/

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                        • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                          Relatively speaking, everything is relative!

                          The US daily cases are 90% below the peak in January, so people are believing and acting like the pandemic is about to end. Whereas the daily cases in Japan have risen to match their January peak (but still far less than the current US numbers), and they are believing and acting like the world is about to end.
                          Not really...they just don't want the Olympics....especially since so few in Japan are vaccinated....but some need to be entertained no matter what others are concerned about.


                          Last edited by Conor Dary; 05-21-2021, 03:31 PM.

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                          • Japan's top COVID adviser says fate of Olympics needs scrutiny

                            The organizers of this summer's Tokyo Olympics must decide whether to go ahead with the games after scrutinizing the impact they may have on Japan's medical system, the country's top government COVID-19 adviser said Friday.

                            The call from Shigeru Omi, an infectious disease expert who heads a government subcommittee on the coronavirus, came as another wave of infections, driven by mutated variants, has caused a shortage of hospital beds and medical staff in some Japanese areas under a state of emergency.

                            https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2...-scrutiny.html

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                            • If the Olympics weren't this huge bloated albatross that makes an aircraft carrier look a canoe they probably could have been moved to Britain or some place similar where covid is under control and vaccinations are growing. But having them now in Japan where few want them is grotesque...but typical for the IOC which doesn't give a shit about anyone...


                              Absolutely Yes’: Games Will Go On Even in State of Emergency, I.O.C. Says

                              As the coronavirus surges in Japan, a top Olympic official said a series of test events had shown the Tokyo Games could be held safely.


                              https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/s...&region=footer
                              Last edited by Conor Dary; 05-21-2021, 07:34 PM.

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                              • 'Like hell:’ As Olympics loom, Japan health care in turmoil

                                https://apnews.com/article/japan-cor...406a6ec6bcedd6

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