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  • #46
    It says in The Sports Examinder article total assets of $5.34 billion and reserves of $2.1 billion

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    • #47
      The Olympics should be assigned to a host country, not a city, and then let the country split it into multiple cities as they see fit, subject to a few constraints; for example a maximum of 6 different cities, and the men's and women's version of the same sport must be in the same city.

      Splitting it like that reduces the need to build or expand facilities and infrastructure to accommodate the athletes and tourists, and the workload of hosting is divided among multiple cities rather than piled high and deep onto one city.

      Note that the Olympics have already been split like that to a limited extent; for example, Olympic soccer is hosted in different cities across the host country, due to the need for multiple large stadiums each day in the early matches. And certain events such as the open-water long distance swim have to take place outside the host city if that's where they need to go to find a suitable body of water.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
        The Olympics should be assigned to a host country, not a city, and then let the country split it into multiple cities as they see fit, subject to a few constraints; for example a maximum of 6 different cities, and the men's and women's version of the same sport must be in the same city.
        Germany is applying for the 2032 OG with the idea of 13 cities hosting and I don't think that should be a big issue, given they're all within a fairly compact area. And I don't really have a problem with, say, men's handball taking place in one arena and the women's version in another. Obviously separating sports like T&F or swimming by sex into different venues is neither sensible nor necessary.
        Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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        • #49
          Going forward the IOC needs to be more prepared to be flexible when it comes to hosting arrangements. Currently there are a number of smaller nations with populations of 5-10 million who would unlikely have all the required world class facilities, but may have a handful of them. Why not club together with a neighbouring country to split the hosting duties.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by AldousZX View Post
            there are a number of smaller nations with populations of 5-10 million who would unlikely have all the required world class facilities, but may have a handful of them. Why not club together with a neighbouring country to split the hosting duties.
            Holland, Belgium, Denmark, and Luxembourg spring to mind!

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            • #51
              Not sure about how Denmark fits in with the other, but the Benelux could very well join together to organize the OG. The maximum distance within the 3-country area is surely a lot smaller than between Moscow and St. Petersburg, which are applying to host the Games jointly in 2032.
              Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Powell View Post
                Not sure about how Denmark fits in with the other,
                Small country near the others. Less than 200m (300km) from Neth.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Powell View Post
                  Not sure about how Denmark fits in with the other, but the Benelux could very well join together to organize the OG. The maximum distance within the 3-country area is surely a lot smaller than between Moscow and St. Petersburg, which are applying to host the Games jointly in 2032.
                  From the Dutch/German border to the Belgian French border or the southern border of Luxembourg is about half the distance between Moscow and St Petersburg. The latter two, while fairly close in terms of the whole of Russia, are further apart than London and Glasgow, for example.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by AldousZX View Post
                    Going forward the IOC needs to be more prepared to be flexible when it comes to hosting arrangements. Currently there are a number of smaller nations with populations of 5-10 million who would unlikely have all the required world class facilities, but may have a handful of them. Why not club together with a neighbouring country to split the hosting duties.
                    Only if people can travel between the host countries without immigration checks during the Games. Athletes and spectators who already have been legally admitted to one of the hosts shouldn't have to deal with possible delays or being turned away when crossing a border to get to their event or hotel.
                    Last edited by 18.99s; 07-30-2020, 04:49 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Atticus View Post
                      Small country near the others. Less than 200m (300km) from Neth.
                      The other three are part of the “low country.”
                      Denmark is part of Scandinavia .

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post

                        Yes ....should be interesting.

                        The European championships this year were going to be spread out all over Europe. Hopefully they will happen next year. We'll see.
                        I still have my tickets, I live 500m away from one of the venues

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by ATK View Post
                          Only thing T&F should remove is the mixed 4x4. Aside from the absurdity of the event, its a participation nightmare. Since the rule now allows 4 different athletes between the rounds and finals of the relays, in theory, we could see 16 teams bring 8 athletes each to only compete in this event if they wanted.
                          I thought they were only allowed to officially bring 6 athletes for the mixed 4x4, and the additional 2 athletes would have to be borrowed from other events.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by 18.99s View Post

                            I thought they were only allowed to officially bring 6 athletes for the mixed 4x4, and the additional 2 athletes would have to be borrowed from other events.
                            If the reference is to the total roster numbers and my math is correct, nations can add an additional 2 athletes in each gender class to the mixed relay pool. So in the 4x400m pools there would be a total of 8 men and 8 women available at the max. 4 from the individual events, 2 from the standard relay pool and 2 more for the mixed relay. The US could and very well may run all of the pool runners in the mixed relay.

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                            • #59
                              I could see splitting off most of the team sports to a separate venue a month or two apart from the rest of the Summer Olympics. Some countries would bid for the smaller piece of the games that do not bid for the whole thing. And it would make the rest of the Dummer games more manageable. It would probably be good for television too.

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                              • #60
                                The team events should just be got rid of...especially soccer which has a WC ....the men's is basically a junior competition which few countries take seriously.

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