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  • #46
    Originally posted by Atticus View Post
    Bonds

    Connery - defined the franchise - A+
    Lazenby and Dalton - place-holders - C+
    Moore - as mentioned above he was great as the Saint, meh as Bond - B-
    Brosnan - too effete and in love with himself - B-
    Craig - redefined the role athletically, which in fight scenes is essential - A
    everybody always forgets Barry Nelson

    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jame...-barry-nelson/

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    • #47
      Originally posted by gh View Post
      everybody always forgets Barry Nelson
      And lord knows we've tried. As we did with David Niven.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Chicago View Post

        Mine too. A terrific cast and score by Burt Bacharach.
        One of the best theme songs in my view. Performed by Herb Alpert and the "Tijuana Brass" (aka The Wrecking Crew)

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        • #49
          I'll tell everybody how obvious it is that Sean Connery is the only James Bond.

          Even Dabo Swinney is smart enough to know that!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bambam1729 View Post
            I'll tell everybody how obvious it is that Sean Connery is the only James Bond.
            Even Dabo Swinney is smart enough to know that!
            Oh, you missed the obvious: if Dabo thinks he is, Connery can't possibly be it.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Atticus View Post
              Oh, you missed the obvious: if Dabo thinks he is, Connery can't possibly be it.
              Broken clock analogy works here . . .

              In my case I've never seen a Bond movie with Craig or Bronson as Bond; in fact Craig's filmography has just one movie I've seen - Munich. (Ha, Brosnan with just one too - Mrs. Doubtfire!) My Bond references are Connery (excellent) and Moore (WTF?? Recently reconfirmed as a horrible Bond in my opinion - sorry 18.99s - when I re-watched A View to a Kill just to see Christopher Walken's scenes - it was painful, I didn't finish). With the exit of Connery, and also with the standard Hollywood CGI-based action movie flotsam & jetsam proliferating in Bond movies of the 80s and beyond, I lost interest.

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              • #52
                Connery was excellent but Bronson was fine....Craig is good too. It's just a fictional character! And a rather shallow one too. No wonder Connery got bored with it.

                I would suggest broadening your horizons in your movie viewing. And who literally cares what Swinney has to say about anything. I thought no one could do George Smiley like Alec Guinness in TTSS, but Gary Oldman great in the movie version.

                Craig was superb in Road to Perdition and especially Layer Cake. Bronson had a small but fascinating role in The Long Good Friday. Also excellent in The Tailor of Panama.
                Last edited by Conor Dary; 10-09-2021, 09:05 PM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                  Bronson had a small but fascinating role in The Long Good Friday. Also excellent in The Tailor of Panama.
                  Brosnan was great in Remington Steele precisely because the character was just a snarky pretty face.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                    Craig was superb in Road to Perdition . . .
                    The one movie I asked mrs. hammy "Did we see that? If not, let's put it in the queue." The answer was that we have yet to watch it.

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                    • #55
                      Craig is about as unBond in Road to Perdition as one could get.

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                      • #56
                        My thoughts on the matter, not that anyone asked, is that the different Bonds were pretty much reflections of the periods in which they were filmed. Connery was certainly iconic, but as has been pointed out recently, some of his romances involved unwilling partners. Moore and Brosnan, sadly reflect an era of questionable suits and equally questionable music amid obvious self-parody. Craig's version of Bond was necessary to ensure that the franchise would be commercially viable to an audience that have grown accustomed to lots of action and even bigger explosions.

                        For those who might miss the Moore version, I recommend both of "The Kingsmen" movies, which have similar humor, with far better suits.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by KevinR View Post
                          Moore and Brosnan, sadly reflect an era of questionable suits and equally questionable music amid obvious self-parody.
                          Good point. Connery had fun with part, and knew it was entertainment. Moore and Brosnan were simply not believable as 'blunt-instrument' agents (as M referred to 007). Craig certainly was. He doesn't have Connery's charm or charisma, but he is the most believable as capable of doing the things he has to do. That opening chase scene in Casino Royale, through the construction site, the best chase scene EVER, in any movie - only Craig could pull that off as remotely credible.

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                          • #58
                            Moore and Brosnan were simply not believable as 'blunt-instrument' agents (as M referred to 007).

                            Right ....a completely made up character with no connection to reality.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Conor Dary View Post
                              Moore and Brosnan were simply not believable as 'blunt-instrument' agents (as M referred to 007).
                              Right ....a completely made up character with no connection to reality.
                              The only reality necessary was as pure entertainment, for which I always gave it an A+.
                              Every covert-operative in movies or TV for the last 60 years was just a variation on his theme. La Femme Nikita (a 1990 TV series we are currently bingeing) was the prototypical female 007.

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                              • #60
                                While made up, not completely unconnected to reality. Fleming's work with Naval Intelligence greatly informed his characters. I read once that he based Bond on a compilation of character traits from different operatives. And Q had an analog in the burgeoning area of spycraft technology.

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