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  • Originally posted by dukehjsteve View Post
    It was late here in the EST zone when the Chargers and the Raiders went to OT, but I stayed up for it. And I had a nightmare scenario that when the OT started the 2 teams would say," hey, we are in. Let's quit playing and too bad, Pittsburgh." But to their credit they kept it going.
    This Raider fan can say after-the-fact that that was a Top-5 regular season game all-time but during the game it was pure torture.

    That had to be a record for giving up 4th and long, and yet they won! I also appreciate the win, because you Steelers get first crack at the Chiefs. We haven't looked so hot against them this year.
    You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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    • So we have this....

      AFC
      1. Tennessee Titans (bye)
      2. Kansas City Chiefs vs. 7. Pittsburgh Steelers...Chiefs move on
      3. Buffalo Bills vs. 6. New England Patriots....Bills move on
      4. Cincinnati Bengals vs. 5. Las Vegas Raiders.....Bengals win
      NFC
      1. Green Bay Packers (bye)
      2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. 7. Philadelphia Eagles....TB easy
      3. Dallas Cowboys vs. 6. San Francisco 49ers.....hardest pick, a ????
      4. Los Angeles Rams vs. 5. Arizona Cardinals....Rams win

      How do the Colts blow it that badly?

      With his three TD passes yesterday giving him 292 Russell Wilson moved past Johnny Unitas 290 and Warren Moon 291 on the al time TD list, he is number 14 right behind Carson Palmer at 13 with 294.
      Last edited by Alcyallen; 01-10-2022, 05:26 PM.

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      • Originally posted by scottmitchell74 View Post
        jazzcyclist Great great story. So sad that's not possible these days.
        But it is possible with T&F athletes in Eugene. :-)

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        • Originally posted by DrJay View Post

          But it is possible with T&F athletes in Eugene. :-)
          Good point.
          You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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          • Just saw Jack for his annual physical, early 80s, has seen me for 20+ years. From Pittsburgh, I've never seen him not in a Steelers or Pirates garment. Pittsburgh fan since his youth. Bleeds black and gold (don't know how that works...gold from the arteries and black from the veins?) Refereed HS football till about age 70 or 75. So I put the Big Question to him....Bradshaw or Ben? He gave a slight edge to Bradshaw. I did not ask for a dissertation on why, and he did acknowledge Bradshaw had a better supporting cast. I think there may have been an element of nostalgia pushing him toward Bradshaw.

            Addendum: I don't have a horse in this race. I do wish Tarkenton and the Vikings had won a Super Bowl so I'd sleep better at night.
            Last edited by DrJay; 01-10-2022, 08:37 PM.

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            • Originally posted by DrJay View Post
              I think there may have been an element of nostalgia pushing him toward Bradshaw.
              It's hard to pick against 4 rings. He's not in Brady or Montana's domain, but he's a legend anyway.

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              • Russell Wilson moved past Johnny Unitas 290 and Warren Moon 291 with his 292 career TD passes, he is now at number 14 with Carson Palmer ahead of him with 294,

                Jonathan Taylor broke all the Colts single season records.

                Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford all moving into top 10ish range stat wise all time.

                A few highlights of the 2021 season. Fingers crossed we get these play offs without any virus problems going to really suck if a team has to sit players.

                My personal award for the 2021 most exciting player.....Deebo Samuel.

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                • With Roethlisberger's regular season career completed, here's a closer look at the careers of Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. The numbers in red represent years with less than 100 pass attempts.
                  Bradshaw Roethlisberger
                  Rating Margin Rating Margin
                  Reg. Season 70.4 5.0 Reg. Season 93.5 9.0
                  Playoffs 83.0 17.6 Playoffs 86.4 1.9
                  1983 133.9 60.8 2021 86.8 -4.0
                  1982 81.4 10.8 2020 94.1 0.5
                  1981 83.9 13.4 2019 66.0 -24.4
                  1980 75.0 3.7 2018 96.5 3.6
                  1979 77.0 9.2 2017 93.4 6.5
                  1978 84.7 22.6 2016 95.4 6.1
                  1977 71.4 13.6 2015 94.5 6.1
                  1976 65.4 1.8 2014 103.3 16.2
                  1975 88.0 25.2 2013 92.0 7.9
                  1974 55.2 -6.2 2012 97.0 13.2
                  1973 54.5 -7.2 2011 90.1 7.6
                  1972 64.1 0.6 2010 97.0 14.8
                  1971 59.7 0.4 2009 100.5 19.3
                  1970 30.4 -32.1 2008 80.1 -1.4
                  2007 104.1 23.2
                  2006 75.4 -3.1
                  2005 98.6 20.4
                  2004 98.1 17.2

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                  • Fantastic jazzcyclist
                    You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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                    • What I see confirms what I was trying to convey: both were above-average regular season QBs (Ben has a bit of an edge) but Bradshaw is WAY better in the playoffs; so much so that his playoff ratings look 21st Century. Ben took a step back in the playoffs, Bradshaw took a leap forward.


                      You there, on the motorbike! Sell me one of your melons!

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                      • RIP Don Maynard, he was a speed receiver out of Texas Western/UTEP who made Broadway Joe. An NFL reject who caught on with the Jets in the early days of the old AFL. Made the Hall of Fame with these numbers...

                        633 receptions
                        11834 yards
                        88 TD's

                        A multi time pro bowler and an All Pro

                        RIP



                        Maynard and Lance Alworth on that All Time AFL team at WR.

                        Kind of a weird deal here, Fred Arbanas a Chief the all time AFL TE, Tony Gonzalez a Chief the all time TE and Travis Kelce a Chief the best TE today, hmmmm?
                        Last edited by Alcyallen; 01-12-2022, 12:00 AM.

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                        • Aikman_vs_Brady.png

                          On one hand, Aikman didn't have to throw passes as much because he had the legendary Emmitt Smith for a running back.

                          On the other hand, this is a comparison of Aikman's entire 12 seasons vs Brady's last 5 seasons in advanced age.

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                          • Aaron Rodgers will win the MVP, do think they should wait until after the playoffs.

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                            • Originally posted by 18.99s View Post
                              Aikman_vs_Brady.png

                              On one hand, Aikman didn't have to throw passes as much because he had the legendary Emmitt Smith for a running back.

                              On the other hand, this is a comparison of Aikman's entire 12 seasons vs Brady's last 5 seasons in advanced age.
                              One is in the HOF. The other is not and likely never be considered for such. Neither is Brady. One is Aikman. The careers of the QBs crossed over fairly substantially so era plays no part.

                              G GS Rec compl/att pct yds TD TD% INT % 1stD YdA Rating
                              177 125 72-53-0 2668 4326 61.7 29054 166 3.8 122 2.8 1407 6.7 82.5
                              165 165 94-71-0 2898 4715 61.5 32942 165 3.5 141 3.0 933 7.0 81.6

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                              • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post

                                One is in the HOF. The other is not and likely never be considered for such. Neither is Brady. One is Aikman. The careers of the QBs crossed over fairly substantially so era plays no part.
                                One played for "America's Team" at the height of their popularity, the other bounced around "mid-market" teams and was not plastered across everyone's TV every Sunday. This is a useful tool that shows just how far down the totem pole Aikman is among HOF QBs: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

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