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[scottmitchell74]

It was late here in the EST zone when the Chargers and the Raiders went to OT, but I stayed up for it. And I had a nightmare scenario that when the OT started the 2 teams would say," hey, we are in. Let's quit playing and too bad, Pittsburgh." But to their credit they kept it going.

This Raider fan can say after-the-fact that that was a Top-5 regular season game all-time but during the game it was pure torture.

That had to be a record for giving up 4th and long, and yet they won! I also appreciate the win, because you Steelers get first crack at the Chiefs. We haven't looked so hot against them this year.

[Alcyallen]

So we have this....

AFC

1. Tennessee Titans (bye)
2. Kansas City Chiefs vs. 7. Pittsburgh Steelers...Chiefs move on
3. Buffalo Bills vs. 6. New England Patriots....Bills move on
4. Cincinnati Bengals vs. 5. Las Vegas Raiders.....Bengals win

NFC

1. Green Bay Packers (bye)
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. 7. Philadelphia Eagles....TB easy
3. Dallas Cowboys vs. 6. San Francisco 49ers.....hardest pick, a ????
4. Los Angeles Rams vs. 5. Arizona Cardinals....Rams win

How do the Colts blow it that badly?

With his three TD passes yesterday giving him 292 Russell Wilson moved past Johnny Unitas 290 and Warren Moon 291 on the al time TD list, he is number 14 right behind Carson Palmer at 13 with 294.

[DrJay]

jazzcyclist Great great story. So sad that's not possible these days.

But it is possible with T&F athletes in Eugene. :-)

[scottmitchell74]

But it is possible with T&F athletes in Eugene. :-)

Good point.

[DrJay]

Just saw Jack for his annual physical, early 80s, has seen me for 20+ years. From Pittsburgh, I've never seen him not in a Steelers or Pirates garment. Pittsburgh fan since his youth. Bleeds black and gold (don't know how that works...gold from the arteries and black from the veins?) Refereed HS football till about age 70 or 75. So I put the Big Question to him....Bradshaw or Ben? He gave a slight edge to Bradshaw. I did not ask for a dissertation on why, and he did acknowledge Bradshaw had a better supporting cast. I think there may have been an element of nostalgia pushing him toward Bradshaw.

Addendum: I don't have a horse in this race. I do wish Tarkenton and the Vikings had won a Super Bowl so I'd sleep better at night.

[Atticus]

I think there may have been an element of nostalgia pushing him toward Bradshaw.

It's hard to pick against 4 rings. He's not in Brady or Montana's domain, but he's a legend anyway.

[Alcyallen]

Russell Wilson moved past Johnny Unitas 290 and Warren Moon 291 with his 292 career TD passes, he is now at number 14 with Carson Palmer ahead of him with 294,

Jonathan Taylor broke all the Colts single season records.

Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford all moving into top 10ish range stat wise all time.

A few highlights of the 2021 season. Fingers crossed we get these play offs without any virus problems going to really suck if a team has to sit players.

My personal award for the 2021 most exciting player.....Deebo Samuel.

[jazzcyclist]

With Roethlisberger's regular season career completed, here's a closer look at the careers of Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. The numbers in red represent years with less than 100 pass attempts.

Bradshaw				Roethlisberger
	Rating	Margin			Rating	Margin
Reg. Season	70.4	5.0		Reg. Season	93.5	9.0
Playoffs	83.0	17.6		Playoffs	86.4	1.9
1983	133.9	60.8		2021	86.8	-4.0
1982	81.4	10.8		2020	94.1	0.5
1981	83.9	13.4		2019	66.0	-24.4
1980	75.0	3.7		2018	96.5	3.6
1979	77.0	9.2		2017	93.4	6.5
1978	84.7	22.6		2016	95.4	6.1
1977	71.4	13.6		2015	94.5	6.1
1976	65.4	1.8		2014	103.3	16.2
1975	88.0	25.2		2013	92.0	7.9
1974	55.2	-6.2		2012	97.0	13.2
1973	54.5	-7.2		2011	90.1	7.6
1972	64.1	0.6		2010	97.0	14.8
1971	59.7	0.4		2009	100.5	19.3
1970	30.4	-32.1		2008	80.1	-1.4
				2007	104.1	23.2
				2006	75.4	-3.1
				2005	98.6	20.4
				2004	98.1	17.2

[scottmitchell74]

Fantastic jazzcyclist

[scottmitchell74]

What I see confirms what I was trying to convey: both were above-average regular season QBs (Ben has a bit of an edge) but Bradshaw is WAY better in the playoffs; so much so that his playoff ratings look 21st Century. Ben took a step back in the playoffs, Bradshaw took a leap forward.

[Alcyallen]

RIP Don Maynard, he was a speed receiver out of Texas Western/UTEP who made Broadway Joe. An NFL reject who caught on with the Jets in the early days of the old AFL. Made the Hall of Fame with these numbers...

633 receptions
11834 yards
88 TD's

A multi time pro bowler and an All Pro

RIP

Maynard and Lance Alworth on that All Time AFL team at WR.

Kind of a weird deal here, Fred Arbanas a Chief the all time AFL TE, Tony Gonzalez a Chief the all time TE and Travis Kelce a Chief the best TE today, hmmmm?

[18.99s]

Aikman_vs_Brady.png

On one hand, Aikman didn't have to throw passes as much because he had the legendary Emmitt Smith for a running back.

On the other hand, this is a comparison of Aikman's entire 12 seasons vs Brady's last 5 seasons in advanced age.

[Alcyallen]

Aaron Rodgers will win the MVP, do think they should wait until after the playoffs.

[NotDutra5]

Aikman_vs_Brady.png

On one hand, Aikman didn't have to throw passes as much because he had the legendary Emmitt Smith for a running back.

On the other hand, this is a comparison of Aikman's entire 12 seasons vs Brady's last 5 seasons in advanced age.

One is in the HOF. The other is not and likely never be considered for such. Neither is Brady. One is Aikman. The careers of the QBs crossed over fairly substantially so era plays no part.

G GS Rec compl/att pct yds TD TD% INT % 1stD YdA Rating

177

125

72-53-0

2668

4326

61.7

29054

166

3.8

122

2.8

1407

6.7

82.5

165

165

94-71-0

2898

4715

61.5

32942

165

3.5

141

3.0

933

7.0

81.6

[Big Tusk]

One is in the HOF. The other is not and likely never be considered for such. Neither is Brady. One is Aikman. The careers of the QBs crossed over fairly substantially so era plays no part.

One played for "America's Team" at the height of their popularity, the other bounced around "mid-market" teams and was not plastered across everyone's TV every Sunday. This is a useful tool that shows just how far down the totem pole Aikman is among HOF QBs: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm