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  • Duke did have a fine year witht a young team. I thought they had a good shot at winning it all.

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    • But also....81-77.

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      • My Mom, a UK alum, has no love lost for Duke and Christian Laettner but apparently hates Tennessee more. She texted me late in the game and said, "Well, as a stellar football player once said about Duke, 'they're just one of them academical schools.'" She doesn't remember who said that.

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        • Originally posted by dukehjsteve View Post
          Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But no one can take away from us what's listed here:

          1991
          1992
          2001
          2010
          2015

          And this year, winning the ACC tournament, and beating UNC twice... it was a darn good year.
          I think Mitchell being out today hurt us, although not sure we could have won even with him. We don't have great outside shooting and Tennessee just packed it in in the paint and made it hard for us to score there. Without that outside shooting we had no answer. We really haven't had great outside shooting at Duke in a long time, and that's the game nowadays. Oh well. Next year, I guess, but with all the new rules and at least 3 of these guys going to the NBA its hard to keep as interested as it used to be.

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          • I guess most will find teams to root for next week but I'm not sure a tournament with a bunch of 8/9 or lower seeds playing for the championship is a good one.

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            • Originally posted by DrJay View Post
              Duke did have a fine year witht a young team. I thought they had a good shot at winning it all.
              You and President Obama

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              • Originally posted by NotDutra5 View Post
                I guess most will find teams to root for next week but I'm not sure a tournament with a bunch of 8/9 or lower seeds playing for the championship is a good one.
                If the goal is to put the best two teams in the title game, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is the most flawed post season in all of sports. At the very least it should be double elimination. There's no way Villanova would have caught lightning in a bottle twice if they had had to play Georgetown a second time.

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                • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                  If the goal is to put the best two teams in the title game, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is the most flawed post season in all of sports. At the very least it should be double elimination. There's no way Villanova would have caught lightning in a bottle twice if they had had to play Georgetown a second time.
                  the only thing the NCAA care$ about is generating huge sum$ of money..and to that end the Tournament is the greatest thing since anything. But I really liked it when it was a 16 team elite field.

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                  • I’m not sure how elite those fields were. 1974 bracket below. I didn’t look at their pedigrees, but I doubt Idaho St, Cal St LA, Ohio, Penn etc could hold a candle to Maryland, whose five losses came to teams ranked 1, 1, 2, 4, and 4 and who couldn’t go since only conference champions went.

                    Here's everything you need to know about the 1974 NCAA tournament. This includes the bracket, scores, stats and records.

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                    • Originally posted by DrJay View Post
                      I’m not sure how elite those fields were. 1974 bracket below. I didn’t look at their pedigrees, but I doubt Idaho St, Cal St LA, Ohio, Penn etc could hold a candle to Maryland, whose five losses came to teams ranked 1, 1, 2, 4, and 4 and who couldn’t go since only conference champions went.

                      https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ts-records?amp
                      IMO, 16 teams is the perfect number for basketball, but like football, there should be no automatic bids, rather they should take the best 16 teams even if it means sending 5 teams from one conference.

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                      • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                        If the goal is to put the best two teams in the title game, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is the most flawed post season in all of sports. At the very least it should be double elimination. There's no way Villanova would have caught lightning in a bottle twice if they had had to play Georgetown a second time.
                        NCAA Basketball is not even close to NCAA Soccer, especially in their men's version, in unpredictability and randomness.

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                        • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                          If the goal is to put the best two teams in the title game, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is the most flawed post season in all of sports. At the very least it should be double elimination. There's no way Villanova would have caught lightning in a bottle twice if they had had to play Georgetown a second time.
                          That's what competition in sport is all about (doing your best in a championship event and catch that lightning in your bottle on that day). Ask Billy Mills if he would be willing to have Gammoudi run a 10K again in 1964?
                          Don't forget Villanova still holds NCAA record for the lowest seed team to win the championship after 38 years. If you remember Villanova had to beat a #9, #1, #5, a Number 2 and another Number 2 (Memphis) to get to Georgetown while Georgetown had to beat a #16, #8, #4, #2,and St. John's (#1) before getting to Villanova. Should St. John's have asked for a 2nd Final Four rematch with Georgetown (they were 27-3 during season in Big East and won the Big East season at 15-1 vs Georgetown 14-2. NCAA March Madness is the best sporting event of each year.
                          Last edited by midwestfan; 03-20-2023, 04:56 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                            If the goal is to put the best two teams in the title game, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is the most flawed post season in all of sports. At the very least it should be double elimination. There's no way Villanova would have caught lightning in a bottle twice if they had had to play Georgetown a second time.
                            Who ever claimed that was the goal. Certainly not anyone who runs this thing. Or most who watch ... Or bets on games.

                            You lose and good bye ...that is how it works.

                            That is the great thing. The FA Cup in England is even more prone to incredible upsets which is what makes it so memorable.

                            Sports is in the entertainment business. It's not a science experiment.


                            Last edited by Conor Dary; 03-20-2023, 06:50 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by jazzcyclist View Post

                              If the goal is to put the best two teams in the title game, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is the most flawed post season in all of sports. At the very least it should be double elimination. There's no way Villanova would have caught lightning in a bottle twice if they had had to play Georgetown a second time.
                              I think the goal is to determine a champion which can be different than determining who the best team is. However I'm not sure it's good overall for the tournament to have upset after upset. IOW once the upset is done and we have FDU vs FAU is that what we really want to see?

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                              • Under Coach K Duke won 5 NCAA titles. Of those, I can definitely think of at least 2, maybe 3, where they were not the best team in the nation - not close even. But there are a couple other years when they were the best team in the nation - easily, and they didn't win (1986, 1989, 1997). That's how the tournament works. If you want to always choose the best team, you play a best of 7 series, but that's not possible in college and for the NCAA tournament.

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