the 100 greatest movies of all-time....

[jeremyp]

So "Citizen Kane" finally got dumped as GOAT.

[Atticus]

Apocalypse Now was the worst movie I have ever watched.

Oh, then you'll really like my # 2: The Dark Knight !!

[steveu]

I counted 79 of these as being 40 or more years old. Less than 1/3 are American movies. No recency or U.S. bias there.

[jeremyp]

O.K. It's time for: "CHACUN A SON GOUT." My daughter (55) keeps telling me to watch certain TV shows and I don't like most of them. And those I recommend to her? Ditto. Age is one factor in taste, so is gender, so is country. Although I was surprised to see that of the top 5 TV shows in the Golden Globes nominations I've seen and liked 4 of them.

https://www.goldenglobes.com/articles/golden-globes-2023-nominations-80th-golden-globes-have-been-announced

[TN1965]

Given the sheer number of films there are that is quite a lot of overlap

And very few overlaps with the box office list.

Top Lifetime Adjusted Grosses - Box Office Mojo

[gm]

Oh, then you'll really like my # 2: The Dark Knight !!

Never seen it.

Terms of Endearment is my No. 2 worst film ever seen, though Willard could trump both of my top picks.

[Conor Dary]

Meanwhile...

Highbrow Films Aimed at Winning Oscars Are Losing Audiences

The kind of critically praised dramas that often dominate the awards season are falling flat at the box office, failing to justify the money it takes to make them.


But studios held out hope, deciding that November 2022 would give a more accurate reading of the marketplace. By then, the coronavirus would not be such a complicating factor. This fall would be a “last stand,” as some put it, a chance to show that more than superheroes and sequels could succeed.

It has been carnage.

One after another, films for grown-ups have failed to find an audience big enough to justify their cost. “Armageddon Time” cost roughly $30 million to make and market and collected $1.9 million at the North American box office. “Tár” cost at least $35 million, including marketing; ticket sales total $5.3 million. Universal spent around $55 million to make and market “She Said,” which also took in $5.3 million. “Devotion” cost well over $100 million and has generated $14 million in ticket sales.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1602132174291226624

[gm]

"films for grown-ups"

that right there is some good ole fashioned bovine droppings

[Atticus]

"films for grown-ups"
that right there is some good ole fashioned bovine droppings

And it's not even accurate.
"Films for dilettantes" is more like it.
If I see one film advertised as "catching the ethos of the current Zeitgeist", I'm gonna retch.

[Davidokun]

“Armageddon Time” cost roughly $30 million to make and market and collected $1.9 million at the North American box office.

I saw it in a theater last month. Turned out to be a private screening, i.e., I was all alone. My third such experience, after The Last Emperor back in the 1980s, and Triangle of Sadness two months ago.

[jeremyp]

Saw "Tar" a few weeks back. My wife and I made up the audience. It's in top nominees for movie, and Blanchett for actress. It cost 35 million and has made 5.3 million. Blanchett may win an Oscar for the least watched "Big" movie of the year.

[lonewolf]

Are they still making movies? The 24-screen AMC in my local mall has been dark since the pandemic started. From age 25-45, with job and kids, we seldom saw movies in a theatre and TV was in its infancy. I have been a widower since age 50, disinclined to sit in a theatre alone. My interest was rejuvenated in my 60s by association with my showbiz actress/author. For several years in my 70s-80s, I had a congenial, platonic female movie companion. We saw a movie every Friday night unless there was a grandkid's soccer game. Since the pandemic waned, with limited mobility, loss of movie companion, reluctance to drive at night, and the plethora of entertainment on TV, I may have seen my last theatre movie. I am sure Hollywood will go on without me but there must be millions with similar movie history.

[18.99s]

They'll continue to make movies, but eventually most movies will be straight to streaming and disc (DVD/Blu-Ray/future physical formats). Streaming killed Blockbuster and most similar movie rental stores, and it will kill most movie theaters.

In the long run, only specialty movie theaters will survive, like IMAX, and the restaurant-theater combo places like Studio Movie Grill.

[Trickstat]

I agree. Surprising. It seems unlikely, but I wonder if both the directors and critics were selecting films from the same master list.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 'long list' of, say, 150, 200 or 300 films.

[Trickstat]

Of the best movies compiled by critics, I have only heard of 24 of them. Of that 24, I have only seen 10. The critic's number 1 movie, Jeanne Dielman 23 Quai du Commerce,1080 Bruxelles, never heard of it.

Neither have I and I'm the kind of person who has at least heard of just about the majority of the non-English language movies on these lists even if I've never seen them.